Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-27 Thread Brad Boyer
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 09:39:16AM -0700, Philip Larkin Waters wrote: > I still don't know what quik is and I'll be researching that, because if it > works with mine it sounds like the best option. But until I get the MACOS > CD's i'm going to take a rest for a while. I believe I was the one who m

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-27 Thread Philip Larkin Waters
y questions but please do. - Original Message - From: "dylan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Philip Larkin Waters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:47 PM Subject: Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot > ok -- calm down a bit > there

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-24 Thread dylan
ok -- calm down a bit there are people who know how to get this done, but things take time as we all have our own things that need to get done. best bet- do as clive suggested- get a macos CD - ( i recomend 7.6.1 but just about any system will work.) format the hard disk, with 1 small macos parti

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-24 Thread Clive Menzies
At 9:33 AM -0700 24/1/03, Philip Larkin Waters wrote: For anyone who can help, I don't know anything about my hardware and the installation is asking me for my device driver disk. I assume it is not in the standard woody or potato directories, and that I have to gather them from near and far. I

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-24 Thread Chris Tillman
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 09:33:45AM -0700, Philip Larkin Waters wrote: > For anyone who can help, I don't know anything about my hardware and the > installation is asking me for my device driver disk. I assume it is not in > the standard woody or potato directories, and that I have to gather them >

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-24 Thread Philip Larkin Waters
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Derrik Pates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:55 AM Subject: Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot > On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 23:44:58 -0500, Derrik Pates composed: > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 04:36:06AM +000

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-24 Thread simon
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 23:44:58 -0500, Derrik Pates composed: > On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 04:36:06AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As I said in my e-mail previously, he has a choice of 3 boot loaders for > Linux on a NuBus system, though not all bootloaders work equally well on > all NuBus syst

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-23 Thread Derrik Pates
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 04:36:06AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > He's got a 7100. It's a NuBus system. It doesn't have OpenFirmware, and > > won't work with either quik or yaboot. MKLinux Booter and BootX both > > start from MacOS, and miBoot loads by way of the MacOS ROM that's burned > > in

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-23 Thread simon
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 20:11:21 -0500, Derrik Pates composed: > On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 03:22:56PM -0800, Brad Boyer wrote: > > Well, that 'cannot' is really 'should not' since Linux doesn't need > > them at all, but the MacOS does. If you boot this thing using miboot > > or BootX, you still need

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-23 Thread simon
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 15:22:56 -0800, Brad Boyer composed: > On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 04:26:03PM -0700, Philip Larkin Waters wrote: > > In my experience with the Debian installer, it was almost always possible > to go back. i've never been able to _not_ go back. at worst you just reboot off the

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-23 Thread simon
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 15:28:13 -0700, Philip Larkin Waters composed: > I don't know the syntax for types; > > I typed "Linux swap" in for the name when I used the "c" command and it > didn't work. "Linux native" however, automatically detected my type? > > I tried using a capital "C" and wh

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-23 Thread Derrik Pates
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 03:22:56PM -0800, Brad Boyer wrote: > Well, that 'cannot' is really 'should not' since Linux doesn't need > them at all, but the MacOS does. If you boot this thing using miboot > or BootX, you still need the drivers, but if you use quik or yaboot, > then they're extraneous u

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-23 Thread Derrik Pates
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 02:15:06PM -0700, Philip Larkin Waters wrote: > That is why person-to-person has been the best for me. One person knows > this, the other person knows that, and now my computer is sitting on my desk > here at work without being able to find our gateway to the internet, with

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-23 Thread Brad Boyer
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 04:26:03PM -0700, Philip Larkin Waters wrote: > So if I fdisk-ed everything yesterday (my computer is still on), and even > though when it started it said "you cannot delete the drivers, yet" it > ultimately let me clear off the whole hard drive Well, that 'cannot' is r

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-23 Thread Philip Larkin Waters
So if I fdisk-ed everything yesterday (my computer is still on), and even though when it started it said "you cannot delete the drivers, yet" it ultimately let me clear off the whole hard drive If I reboot I'm dead in the water right? I don't have the MACOS installation disks I screwed up on

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-23 Thread Brad Boyer
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 03:28:13PM -0700, Philip Larkin Waters wrote: > I typed "Linux swap" in for the name when I used the "c" command and it > didn't work. "Linux native" however, automatically detected my type? > > I tried using a capital "C" and when it asked for type I said "swap" But of

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-23 Thread Philip Larkin Waters
"swap" But of course that didn't work Where is a resource for how to use mac-fdisk? - Original Message - From: "Brad Boyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Philip Larkin Waters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Chris Tillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-23 Thread Brad Boyer
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 02:15:06PM -0700, Philip Larkin Waters wrote: > I wasn't able to succesfully make a linux swap using "mac-fdisk??" but I do > have a 32M partition waiting if I ever figure out how (if it'll work now) You would need to use the "create with type specified" option, which is 'C

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-23 Thread Philip Larkin Waters
The sad news is I'm the only person in my corner of the world who knows anything about this stuff, and I haven't found general information to help.. That is why person-to-person has been the best for me. One person knows this, the other person knows that, and now my computer is sitting on my desk

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-22 Thread Philip Larkin Waters
I think that it is the basic concept that I am having trouble with. when I hear words like "boot loader" and "distribution" and "kernel" and "source" I'm not exactly sure which is which and which pieces I have. I don't know which I still need, and which terms are synonymous and I don't have to wor

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-16 Thread dylan
getting debian 3.0 up and running on the 7100/ 8100 series is not as bad as it sounds. i have done it over 5 times here -- so please contact me off list and i can walk anyone who is interested through it. dylan on 03.1.16 0:19 PM, Clive Menzies at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At 11:14 am -0500 16/

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-16 Thread Clive Menzies
At 11:14 am -0500 16/1/03, Derrik Pates wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 09:06:13AM +, Clive Menzies wrote: Incidentally, have you managed to read floppies at all? I haven't spent much time on it 'cos I don't need floppy access; I couldn't get it to work under potato either. Someone sugge

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-16 Thread Derrik Pates
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 09:06:13AM +, Clive Menzies wrote: > Incidentally, have you managed to read floppies at all? I haven't > spent much time on it 'cos I don't need floppy access; I couldn't get > it to work under potato either. Someone suggested it may be related > to SWIM II v SWIM I

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-16 Thread Clive Menzies
At 1:03 pm -0500 15/1/03, Marco Scoffier wrote: I put my installation notes up at http://www.clivemenzies.co.uk/nubus_woody.htm You should also look at: > http://fungus.ucdavis.edu/~dylan/index.php I've successfully installed woody on an 8100/80 using the 2.4.19 kernel Thank you for

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-15 Thread Marco Scoffier
I put my installation notes up at http://www.clivemenzies.co.uk/nubus_woody.htm You should also look at: > http://fungus.ucdavis.edu/~dylan/index.php I've successfully installed woody on an 8100/80 using the 2.4.19 kernel Thank you for this information, I have been trying with the ol

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-15 Thread Clive Menzies
: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 1:43 AM Subject: Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot At 1:56 pm -0700 13/1/03, Marc Stergionis wrote: >At about 12:50 PM -0700 on 1/13/03, Marc Stergionis wrote: >>At about 1:08 PM -0500 on 1/13/03, Allan Streib wrote: >>>Don't know

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-14 Thread Philip Larkin Waters
ist" Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:56 PM Subject: Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot > At about 12:50 PM -0700 on 1/13/03, Marc Stergionis wrote: > >At about 1:08 PM -0500 on 1/13/03, Allan Streib wrote: > >>Don't know. My 6500 is a PCI machine. I only have 32 MB R

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-14 Thread Philip Larkin Waters
Is it NuBus? And what packages can I use for the MachLinux kernel updated 2001 June 19 - Original Message - From: "Clive Menzies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Marc Stergionis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Debian List" Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 1:43 A

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-14 Thread Clive Menzies
At 1:56 pm -0700 13/1/03, Marc Stergionis wrote: At about 12:50 PM -0700 on 1/13/03, Marc Stergionis wrote: At about 1:08 PM -0500 on 1/13/03, Allan Streib wrote: Don't know. My 6500 is a PCI machine. I only have 32 MB RAM, though. Allan On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Philip Larkin Waters wrote: So

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-13 Thread Marc Stergionis
At about 12:50 PM -0700 on 1/13/03, Marc Stergionis wrote: At about 1:08 PM -0500 on 1/13/03, Allan Streib wrote: Don't know. My 6500 is a PCI machine. I only have 32 MB RAM, though. Allan On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Philip Larkin Waters wrote: So if it prompts me for nothing after I try to boot

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-13 Thread Marc Stergionis
At about 1:08 PM -0500 on 1/13/03, Allan Streib wrote: Don't know. My 6500 is a PCI machine. I only have 32 MB RAM, though. Allan On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Philip Larkin Waters wrote: So if it prompts me for nothing after I try to boot from the .img file, that means something like I don't have

Re: PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-13 Thread Allan Streib
Don't know. My 6500 is a PCI machine. I only have 32 MB RAM, though. Allan On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Philip Larkin Waters wrote: > So if it prompts me for nothing after I try to boot from the .img file, that > means something like I don't have enough memory to complete the installation > i'm guessi

PowerMac 7100/80 won't boot

2003-01-13 Thread Philip Larkin Waters
So if it prompts me for nothing after I try to boot from the .img file, that means something like I don't have enough memory to complete the installation i'm guessing I'm using a 7100/80 with NuBus. I think it has 24MB. is there an even more scaled-down kernel I can use? - Original Message -