Hi folks,
I remember discussing keyboard issues a long time ago...
On 13 Sep, this message from Michel Dänzer echoed through cyberspace:
> On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 18:06 +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
>> > > Now there is one question left: what is the standard model?
>> > > In the terminoology of xk
> > > Ideally, the kernel should send up the same codes as a PC keyboard.
> >
> > It doesn't always do that - that's why I asked for someone to collect the
> > ADB init messages. More precisely, we need those together with the xkb
> > model that works right for a particular machine. Maybe the ISO k
On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 18:06 +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
> > > Now there is one question left: what is the standard model?
> > > In the terminoology of xkb-data 0.8-12exp1, is this macintosh_old2
> > > or macintosh? I would say the former, since these are the same keycodes
> > > as with PC keyboa
> > Now there is one question left: what is the standard model?
> > In the terminoology of xkb-data 0.8-12exp1, is this macintosh_old2
> > or macintosh? I would say the former, since these are the same keycodes
> > as with PC keyboards, but I would be glad if someone could confirm.
> > Oh, one mor
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 10:15:38PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 03:50:37PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
> > Please pick another name - macintosh_old is strictly for ADB Macs that use
> > a very old kernel (or a compatibility feature) to send keycodes in the ADB
> > mapping
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 03:50:37PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
> [... most interesting discussion of xkb workings snipped ...]
> > In unstable, there are 2 models: macintosh and macintosh_old.
> > The latter is for older kernels, and should probably be renamed into
> > macintosh_adb for clarity r
[... most interesting discussion of xkb workings snipped ...]
> In unstable, there are 2 models: macintosh and macintosh_old.
> The latter is for older kernels, and should probably be renamed into
> macintosh_adb for clarity reasons.
Please pick another name - macintosh_old is strictly for ADB Mac
> keyboards). The kernel should detect this and always generate the same
> PC-style keycodes, but fails to do so in some cases. I think the
> keyboard type can be deferred from
>
> dmesg|grep 'adb devices'
>
> but I forget how exactly.
dmesg|grep -A 10 'adb devices'
shows the whole set of kernel
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 20:10 +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
> As Bin said, here it's the alt key which is a modifier. The apple key
> is
> used for shortcuts (apple+o = Open...).
Ah, yes, sorry :)
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Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> Hem, under osx, to have the |\ etc. you need to press the apple key, not
> the alt key (on a french keyboard at least).
As Bin said, here it's the alt key which is a modifier. The apple key is
used for shortcuts (apple+o = Open...).
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On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 12:08:10PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
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> I'm not sure a model will cut it either. Here's my recollection of the
> problem:
>
> The hardware keycodes of these keys can be swapped, depending on layout
> and maybe other factors (IIRC it's about ISO vs. other variants of
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:31:47PM +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
> Good late summer evening, (well, in southern France at least)
>
> Bin Zhang wrote:
> > Option "XkbModel" "ibook"
>
> With the ibook layout, it was working; but I prefer to use the macintosh
> layout so that the keypad enter
On 9/9/06, Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 19:31 +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
> PS: By the way Denis, just a thought. On MacOs X, the
> "ISO_Level3_shift key"
> is the alt key. With xkb, it's the right alt key, la PC AltGr. I
> don't
> know how good would be t
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 19:31 +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
> PS: By the way Denis, just a thought. On MacOs X, the
> "ISO_Level3_shift key"
> is the alt key. With xkb, it's the right alt key, la PC AltGr. I
> don't
> know how good would be the idea to make the alt key ISO_Level3_shift
> and
> the a
Good late summer evening, (well, in southern France at least)
Bin Zhang wrote:
> Option "XkbModel" "ibook"
With the ibook layout, it was working; but I prefer to use the macintosh
layout so that the keypad enter behaves as KP_Enter.
As Michel pointed at, the problem was that I've h
On 9/8/06, Yannick Roehlly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Denis,
Denis Barbier wrote:
> You can set model to macintosh_old2, this is a workaround until we find
> exactly which models need swapped keys.
Well, if I do a
setxkbmap -rules xorg -model macintosh_old -layout "fr" -option ""
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 13:09 +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
>
> Denis Barbier wrote:
>
> > You can set model to macintosh_old2, this is a workaround until we find
> > exactly which models need swapped keys.
>
> Well, if I do a
>
> setxkbmap -rules xorg -model macintosh_old -layout "fr"
Hi Denis,
Denis Barbier wrote:
> You can set model to macintosh_old2, this is a workaround until we find
> exactly which models need swapped keys.
Well, if I do a
setxkbmap -rules xorg -model macintosh_old -layout "fr" -option ""
the window manager dies (but not X) - tested with KDE
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 11:42 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:36:14AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 08:46 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> > >
> > > You can set model to macintosh_old2, this is a workaround until we find
> > > exactly which models need s
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:36:14AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 08:46 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> >
> > You can set model to macintosh_old2, this is a workaround until we find
> > exactly which models need swapped keys. Can you please
> > cat /proc/cpuinfo
> > and send
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 08:46 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
>
> You can set model to macintosh_old2, this is a workaround until we find
> exactly which models need swapped keys. Can you please
> cat /proc/cpuinfo
> and send its output?
FWIW, IIRC this may actually be a kernel issue (its keyboard t
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 10:52:05PM +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
> Yannick Roehlly wrote:
>
> > On the French layout, the and @/# keys are swapted.
>
> I just noticed that that's the meaning of "Since all reports so far
> complained that and keys are swapped, this is now the
> default. If th
On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 21:29 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> Since all reports so far complained that and
> keys are swapped, this is now the default. If this breaks
> your keyboard, please speak up.
Here (powerbook 5,6) it works like a charm. Thanks, really.
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Yannick Roehlly wrote:
> On the French layout, the and @/# keys are swapted.
I just noticed that that's the meaning of "Since all reports so far
complained that and keys are swapped, this is now the
default. If this breaks your keyboard, please speak up."
Is there an option to revert to the
Hi Denis,
On the French layout, the and @/# keys are swapted.
Yannick
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As explained in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2006/08/msg00336.html
I need your help to fix Macintosh keyboards. These changes
will be pushed upstream when known bugs are fixed, and I
would like to do it as soon as possible.
Since all reports so far complained that and
keys are swap
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