Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 11:33:38PM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > On 5/28/07, Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Le Mon, May 28, 2007 at 07:52:42PM -0400, Albert Cahalan a écrit : > >> > >> 1. you actually ARE cross compiling > >> 2. you didn't tell the package that (via make arguments, e

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-30 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 08:56:56PM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > On 5/29/07, Paul Mackerras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Albert Cahalan writes: > > > >> Running a 32-bit userspace on a 64-bit kernel is > >> however gross, foul, bad, nasty, and wrong. > > > >Rubbish. It makes a lot of sense for m

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 5/29/07, Paul Mackerras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Albert Cahalan writes: > Running a 32-bit userspace on a 64-bit kernel is > however gross, foul, bad, nasty, and wrong. Rubbish. It makes a lot of sense for most userspace programs to be 32-bit on a 64-bit PowerPC system. Unless a program

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-29 Thread Paul Mackerras
Albert Cahalan writes: > Running a 32-bit userspace on a 64-bit kernel is > however gross, foul, bad, nasty, and wrong. Rubbish. It makes a lot of sense for most userspace programs to be 32-bit on a 64-bit PowerPC system. Unless a program needs to do 64-bit integer arithmetic or access more tha

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel

2007-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 5/20/07, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 04:46:04PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Out of the 140 packages using ./configure, 30 used ppc64, but only one > faild to build for this reason. These .configure thingies, are they using the gnu autoconf stuff, and i

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 5/28/07, Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le Mon, May 28, 2007 at 07:52:42PM -0400, Albert Cahalan a écrit : > > 1. you actually ARE cross compiling > 2. you didn't tell the package that (via make arguments, etc.) Hi, does it mean that there is something broken in the concept of a D

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-28 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, May 28, 2007 at 07:52:42PM -0400, Albert Cahalan a écrit : > > 1. you actually ARE cross compiling > 2. you didn't tell the package that (via make arguments, etc.) Hi, does it mean that there is something broken in the concept of a Debian port? When I install a "Debian Etch for powerpc"

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 5/20/07, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 04:46:04PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Out of the 140 packages using ./configure, 30 used ppc64, but only one > faild to build for this reason. These .configure thingies, are they using the gnu autoconf stuff, and i

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-28 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi all, hi Sven, Le Sun, May 20, 2007 at 12:27:12PM +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : > > These .configure thingies, are they using the gnu autoconf stuff, and if > so which version. Or some hand-made ./configure script ? I do not know... À vrai dire, my motivation to investigate further decreased s

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-20 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 04:46:04PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Fri, May 18, 2007 at 07:37:07AM +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : > > > > Do you know what exactly is causing this problem ? Or could you list the > > 140 packages which you already detected to be problematic ? > > Hi Sven, > > Out

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-19 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, May 18, 2007 at 07:37:07AM +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : > > Do you know what exactly is causing this problem ? Or could you list the > 140 packages which you already detected to be problematic ? Hi Sven, Out of the 140 packages using ./configure, 30 used ppc64, but only one faild to bui

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-19 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, May 18, 2007 at 07:26:06PM +1000, jim a écrit : > sorry in advance if i have missed the point - but this might be relevant ;) > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=251149 Thanks all for your answers, it seems that linux32 is the solution. However, I remain puzzled by the fa

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-18 Thread jim
Charles Plessy wrote: Dear all, Starting from the observation that a pre-release debian pacakge of root-system and the current xaralx (non-free) pacakge fail to build from source on G5 powerpc machines but not on G4, I started to get worried that that kind of failures would be more widespread.

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-18 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Charles Plessy a écrit : > Dear all, > > Starting from the observation that a pre-release debian pacakge of > root-system and the current xaralx (non-free) pacakge fail to build > from source on G5 powerpc machines but not on G4, I started to get > worried that that kind of failures would be more

Re: Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 12:13:34PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Dear all, > > Starting from the observation that a pre-release debian pacakge of > root-system and the current xaralx (non-free) pacakge fail to build > from source on G5 powerpc machines but not on G4, I started to get > worried th

Builds disturbed by the usage of a 64bit kernel.

2007-05-17 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear all, Starting from the observation that a pre-release debian pacakge of root-system and the current xaralx (non-free) pacakge fail to build from source on G5 powerpc machines but not on G4, I started to get worried that that kind of failures would be more widespread. The core of the problem