Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 05:26:38PM +0300, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 04:13:10PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > So, with all that said, do you still believe it is normal that a perfectly > > running daily build was rejected in maybe a few minutes/hours after i sent > > that email,

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-29 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 04:13:10PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > So, with all that said, do you still believe it is normal that a perfectly > running daily build was rejected in maybe a few minutes/hours after i sent > that email, while i had offered to continue running it until a proper > replacemen

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 03:58:17AM +0300, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 08:28:11PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > Notice also that both you and Colin Watson, where donated pegasos machines, > > (and guess who arranged that), so the unavailability of a decent build > > machine > > is

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-29 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 08:28:11PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > Notice also that both you and Colin Watson, where donated pegasos machines, > (and guess who arranged that), so the unavailability of a decent build machine > is no excuse. I can't speak for the other guys, but I have a Pegasos machine

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 03:21:12PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 12:40:48AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:34:30PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > The maintainer is held respon

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 12:40:48AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:34:30PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > The maintainer is held responsible (and frans and joeyh have not stepped > > > down > > > from remin

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 12:44:13AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > Well, it is what i see. There is nothing to clarify on this > > point. They removed me to get ride of me, and despite Colin's help, > > they don't really have som

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > Well, it is what i see. There is nothing to clarify on this > point. They removed me to get ride of me, and despite Colin's help, > they don't really have someone to make the real work. So Colin's help isn't real, or what? Please don

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:34:30PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > The maintainer is held responsible (and frans and joeyh have not stepped > > down > > from reminding me of this in the past) of the build failure, while a > > contribu

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:46:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > The maintainer is held responsible (and frans and joeyh have not stepped down > from reminding me of this in the past) of the build failure, while a > contributor is free commit fixes, without necessarily being the one to blame > for ev

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 09:47:33PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 17:03]: > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]: > > > > Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Andreas Barth
* Olaf van der Spek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 17:54]: > On 4/27/06, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 11:43:02AM -0400, Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford > > [Contr] wrote: > > > Just what are the rules for someone to have commit access? > > > > None, it is the full dec

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 17:03]: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]: > > > Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access was taken > > > from > > > me, and why i find out only now as

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 12:36:56PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] wrote: > > I don't think you understand. There was not a peep on the list about > > anything being up with the daily image until Sven explicitely stated it. > > All of us who read http://people.debian.

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 06:46:11PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > (dropping the ridiculous CC list, AFAICT everybody is subscribed) > > On Thursday 27 April 2006 17:47, Sven Luther wrote: > > None, it is the full decision of the project admin, and i believe what > > happened here is that one such proje

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 11:43:02AM -0400, Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] wrote: > On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I stepped back from d-i powerpc port maintainer, not as d-i > contributor. > > > >

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Frans Pop
(dropping the ridiculous CC list, AFAICT everybody is subscribed) On Thursday 27 April 2006 17:47, Sven Luther wrote: > None, it is the full decision of the project admin, and i believe what > happened here is that one such project admin did let some petty > personal considerations overstep his re

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Joey Hess
Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] wrote: > I don't think you understand. There was not a peep on the list about > anything being up with the daily image until Sven explicitely stated it. All of us who read http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/build-logs.html on a daily basis knew that the powerpc

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 4/27/06, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 11:43:02AM -0400, Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] > wrote: > > Just what are the rules for someone to have commit access? > > None, it is the full decision of the project admin, and i believe what > happened here is th

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr]
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > > > > > > > I stepped back from d-i powerpc port maintainer, not as d-i contributor. > > > > > > > So there apparently was a misunderstanding. > [...] > > who was kicked out you mea

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 11:43:02AM -0400, Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] wrote: > Just what are the rules for someone to have commit access? None, it is the full decision of the project admin, and i believe what happened here is that one such project admin did let some petty personal consider

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:32:42PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:10:17PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Sven Luther wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > > > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PR

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Rene Engelhard
Sven Luther wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:10:17PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Sven Luther wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]: > > > > > Andreas, do you have an explanation of why

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 05:10:17PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > Hi, > > Sven Luther wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]: > > > > Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access was taken >

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, Sven Luther wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]: > > > Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access was taken > > > from > > > me, and why i find out only now as i was going to fix the iss

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 04:52:09PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]: > > Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access was taken from > > me, and why i find out only now as i was going to fix the issue ? > > http://lists.debian.org/debia

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 15:05]: > Andreas, do you have an explanation of why d-i commit access was taken from > me, and why i find out only now as i was going to fix the issue ? http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/03/msg01075.html sounds like you stepped back, and http://lis

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:07:36PM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:27:35PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Sven Luther > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I was going to fix it, maybe it would have been fixed alread

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:17:08PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:07:36PM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:27:35PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Sven Luther > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr]
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Andreas Barth wrote: > > I would have expected to see some mention of it on the list so people who > > don't stay on IRC (and people who are only interested in the ppc architecture) > > would know what was going on. > > I never doubted that. :) > I don't think yo

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:27:35PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Sven Luther > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was going to fix it, maybe it would have been fixed already, but no, > > the d-i team decided this otherwise. > > You can't *commit*, but you stil

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:53:07PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 14:38]: > > I don't think you understand. There was not a peep on the list about > > anything being up with the daily image until Sven explicitely stated it. > > I woul

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Andreas Barth
* Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 14:38]: > I don't think you understand. There was not a peep on the list about > anything being up with the daily image until Sven explicitely stated it. > I would have expected the maintainer or others privy to the situation > to ha

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was going to fix it, maybe it would have been fixed already, but no, > the d-i team decided this otherwise. You can't *commit*, but you still can send patches, can't you ? Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 01:59:54PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:53]: > > On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:23]: > > > > Dear fellow powerpc folk, this clearly means th

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Andreas Barth
* Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:53]: > On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:23]: > > > Dear fellow powerpc folk, this clearly means that the debian support for > > > powerpc is dead or almost so, and i s

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Toni L. Harbaugh-Blackford [Contr]
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:23]: > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 12:53:12PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > > On Thursday 27 April 2006 12:14, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > 1) daily build business card and netinst isos are failing to bui

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 01:30:17PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > Oh fun, i don't have any commit access to the d-i repo anymore, so i can't > > even fix this issue myself. This clearly shows the pettiness of the d-i > > team, > > i am disgusted. ... > > > > Dear fellow powerpc folk, this clearl

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060427 13:23]: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 12:53:12PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > On Thursday 27 April 2006 12:14, Sven Luther wrote: > > > 1) daily build business card and netinst isos are failing to build > > > since april 1, which means they don't include the b

Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

2006-04-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 12:53:12PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > On Thursday 27 April 2006 12:14, Sven Luther wrote: > > 1) daily build business card and netinst isos are failing to build > > since april 1, which means they don't include the broadcom tg3 module > > at all, and are thus not really usa