--- Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 09:47:12AM -0700, CaRLoS
> mOGUeL wrote:
> >
> > Yes ... that's right, "default=" is for the kernel
> > image, I got confused with the "defaultos=" (that
> I
> > already used with no success trying to change my
> OS to
> > MacOS
> > Dunno - the consensus on linuxppc-dev seemed to be there's been more work
> > going into the intel version WRT optimization so it performs a lot better.
> > Other than that, just a gut feeling (I would have expected better
> > performance in my test cases).
>
> Weren't Apple using gcc to compi
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 03:57:12PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
> Dunno - the consensus on linuxppc-dev seemed to be there's been more work
> going into the intel version WRT optimization so it performs a lot better.
> Other than that, just a gut feeling (I would have expected better
> performance
On 16 Oct, this message from Michael Schmitz echoed through cyberspace:
>> As for the iBook2, I would be surprised if it couldn't play DVDs.
>
> Sure it can - with the hardware decoder used (assuming it has such a
> beast; the Lombard does).
No dedicated hardware, just hardware assistance from t
On 16 Oct, this message from Rogério Brito echoed through cyberspace:
> For instance, some time ago I asked what x86 (mobile)
> processor the iBook2's could be compared to and I received all
> answers from a Celeron 300 to a Pentium III 800. :-/ What is
> a realistic figure
On 15 Oct, this message from Derrik Pates echoed through cyberspace:
> On 16 Oct 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:
>
>> Even with Linux, the choice isn't so hard, with a growing amount of
>> software supporting Altivec. In particular, watching DVDs is certainly
>> much more of a pleasure on a TiBook now
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 09:03:33AM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Rick Haines wrote:
>
> > I thought about all this before purchasing my iBook2 and came down to a
> > couple deciding factors:
> >
> > 1. The TiBook is bigger than what I wanted
> > 2. The TiBook has a fan th
I just checked apple.com and words cannot describe how I feel right
now since I just bought my TiBook last week. I am sooo disappointed,
still like my TiBook, but I feel cheated.
Do you know when these will actually be available? Sure - you can
buy one now but when will you get it?
-- Blake
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Rick Haines wrote:
> I thought about all this before purchasing my iBook2 and came down to a
> couple deciding factors:
>
> 1. The TiBook is bigger than what I wanted
> 2. The TiBook has a fan that makes it louder than the iBook2
The fan on my titanium has come on exactly o
I thought about all this before purchasing my iBook2 and came down to a
couple deciding factors:
1. The TiBook is bigger than what I wanted
2. The TiBook has a fan that makes it louder than the iBook2
(iBook2 would be silent if not for the HD/CDROM)
3. Eventually I can move some resiste
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 08:24:59AM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
> DVD playing works in MacOS 9, MacOS X, and Debian PPC on the titanium.
> You can play DVDs with the iBook under MacOS 9/X. You can't play DVDs
> with Linux on the iBook because the CPU power just isn't there, and the
> various Lin
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Blake Carlson wrote:
> I've seen some good discussion about the G3 vs. G4 on this
> thread, but you all are neglecting the rest of the system when
> comparing the TiBook vs. iBook2.
>
>
> TiBook as 100MHz bus vs. 66MHz in iBook2. This is a *big* deal.
> Also, the TiBook has l
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, [iso-8859-1] Rogério Brito wrote:
> But I still have questions regarding these notebooks with
> Linux.
[...]
> Battery life is more of a concern than processing power for me
> and the ads from Apple lead me to think that this may be a
> point wh
I've seen some good discussion about the G3 vs. G4 on this
thread, but you all are neglecting the rest of the system when
comparing the TiBook vs. iBook2.
TiBook as 100MHz bus vs. 66MHz in iBook2. This is a *big* deal.
Also, the TiBook has large 1MB cache running at 200MHz vs. iBook2's
256KB ca
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Andrew Sharp wrote:
> > > For instance, some time ago I asked what x86 (mobile)
> > > processor the iBook2's could be compared to and I received all
> > > answers from a Celeron 300 to a Pentium III 800. :-/ What is
> > > a realistic figure?
>
> Is this
Michael Schmitz wrote:
>
> > For instance, some time ago I asked what x86 (mobile)
> > processor the iBook2's could be compared to and I received all
> > answers from a Celeron 300 to a Pentium III 800. :-/ What is
> > a realistic figure?
Is this a troll?
> Irrelevant. An
On Tue, 2001-10-16 at 11:53, Rogério Brito wrote:
> My most advanced projects as a user are watching DivX movies,
> encoding MP3s with lame and playing files with xmms. I'd like
> to take the lowest (i.e., cheapest) processor that could make
> me watch the DivX movies witho
> For instance, some time ago I asked what x86 (mobile)
> processor the iBook2's could be compared to and I received all
> answers from a Celeron 300 to a Pentium III 800. :-/ What is
> a realistic figure?
Irrelevant. Any figure someone could come up with is pretty irreleva
On Oct 16 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> Even with Linux, the choice isn't so hard, with a growing amount of
> software supporting Altivec. In particular, watching DVDs is
> certainly much more of a pleasure on a TiBook now than it will
> probably ever be on a G3 Notebook.
Oh, I wasn't the o
On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Ron Golan wrote:
> Are saying that a G3 will never do DVD playback in Linux? Have you
> seen the Mac OS X.1 DVD player?
Yes to both.
-jwb
On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 07:40:58PM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
[...]
>
> I don't think the G3 will ever do DVD in software. It needs colorspace
> conversion and idct in hardware. DVD playing really is a bitch. It's
> just a whole lot of math and i/o.
>
[...]
Are saying that a G3 will nev
On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Derrik Pates wrote:
> On 16 Oct 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:
>
> > Even with Linux, the choice isn't so hard, with a growing amount of
> > software supporting Altivec. In particular, watching DVDs is certainly
> > much more of a pleasure on a TiBook now than it will probably eve
On 16 Oct 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> Even with Linux, the choice isn't so hard, with a growing amount of
> software supporting Altivec. In particular, watching DVDs is certainly
> much more of a pleasure on a TiBook now than it will probably ever be on
> a G3 Notebook.
Are there any asm optimiz
--- Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 09:04:22AM -0700, CaRLoS
> mOGUeL wrote:
> > Based on ...
> >
> >
>
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt
> >
> > Now my partition table is ...
> >
> > /dev/hda1 ...
> > /dev/hda2 ...
> > /dev/hda3 ...
> >
On Mon, 2001-10-15 at 21:28, Blake Carlson wrote:
> I think that if you're interested in using OS X down the road, you'll be
> better off with a G4 (disregard clock rate). At the moment, that limits
> your choice to a TiBook. If you're going for Linux only, your decision
> gets harder and you
On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 09:47:12AM -0700, CaRLoS mOGUeL wrote:
>
> Yes ... that's right, "default=" is for the kernel
> image, I got confused with the "defaultos=" (that I
> already used with no success trying to change my OS to
> MacOS by default ...)
with potato r0's yaboot? that feature did
On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 09:04:22AM -0700, CaRLoS mOGUeL wrote:
> Based on ...
>
> http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt
>
> Now my partition table is ...
>
> /dev/hda1 ...
> /dev/hda2 ...
> /dev/hda3 ...
> /dev/hda4 ...
> /dev/hda5 ...
> /dev/hda6 ...
> /dev/hda7 ...
> /dev/h
Carlos -
Glad to be of help :) As far as a recommendation for a PowerBook, I
have to say my TiBook is pretty nice. I went for the G4/400 model, got
a ~$150 instant rebate, bought 512 MB RAM for 2x$37 and an AirPort card
for $99. There are additional rebates if you want to buy things like
p
--- Blake Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Carlos -
>
> I just did my install on a TiBook the other day :)
> Unfortunately, the
> upgrade to unstable has been a rough road but things
> are looking good
> now. Got to get this keymap stuff taken care of
> ..
>
> Not sure if I'm understa
--- Blake Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Carlos -
>
> I just did my install on a TiBook the other day :)
> Unfortunately, the
> upgrade to unstable has been a rough road but things
> are looking good
> now. Got to get this keymap stuff taken care of
> ..
Is the TiBook the best optio
Carlos -
I just did my install on a TiBook the other day :) Unfortunately, the
upgrade to unstable has been a rough road but things are looking good
now. Got to get this keymap stuff taken care of ..
Not sure if I'm understanding your message right, but "default=" in
yaboot.conf is ref
Based on ...
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt
Now my partition table is ...
/dev/hda1 ...
/dev/hda2 ...
/dev/hda3 ...
/dev/hda4 ...
/dev/hda5 ...
/dev/hda6 ...
/dev/hda7 ...
/dev/hda8 APPLE_Bootstrap bootstrap (800.0K)
/dev/hda9 APPLE_UNIX_SVR2 swap (100.0M)
/dev/
On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 11:23:26AM -0700, CaRLoS mOGUeL wrote:
>
> somethig like this in the yaboot.conf ? ...
>
> boot=/dev/hda6 //bootstrap partition
> device=hd:
> partition=8 // linux partition - number 7 for swap
> root=/dev/hda8
> append="video=atyfb:mode:800x600-8"
> read-only
> image=/vm
On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 08:03:45AM -0700, CaRLoS mOGUeL wrote:
> I was not using a bootstrap and it was working just
> fine.
>
> Now .. at some times the OF said something like ...
> can't open hd:,\\:tbxi
>
> here is my yaboot.conf ...
>
> image=hd:,vmlinux
> label=vmlinux
> root=/dev/hda
On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, CaRLoS mOGUeL wrote:
> In that time the yaboot loader was in /dev/hd8 - The
> MacOS side (inside the system folder with the
> yaboot.conf and the vmlinux file) ... the thing is
> that now I am trying to do it the right way !!!.
Ok. That's different...
> somethig like this in
--- Derrik Pates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, CaRLoS mOGUeL wrote:
>
> > I was not using a bootstrap and it was working
> just fine.
>
> Say what? So where were you installing the yaboot
> loader to?
In that time the yaboot loader was in /dev/hd8 - The
MacOS side (inside th
On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, CaRLoS mOGUeL wrote:
> I was not using a bootstrap and it was working just
> fine.
Say what? So where were you installing the yaboot loader to?
> image=hd:,vmlinux
That's wrong. You should have a 'boot=' line that indicates your bootstrap
partition, and the 'device=' an
I'll try ...
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt
and let you know what happend ... Blessings
Carlos.
--- Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 09:03:41AM -0700, CaRLoS
> mOGUeL wrote:
> > to Debian. Since that everytime I reboot or start
> the
>
I was not using a bootstrap and it was working just
fine.
Now .. at some times the OF said something like ...
can't open hd:,\\:tbxi
here is my yaboot.conf ...
image=hd:,vmlinux
label=vmlinux
root=/dev/hda10
append="video=atyfb:mode:800x600-8"
I will try
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 09:03:41AM -0700, CaRLoS mOGUeL wrote:
> to Debian. Since that everytime I reboot or start the
> iBook it sends me to the Open Firmware and nothing
you must have an 800K type Apple_Bootstrap partition appearing before
all MacOS partitions, once that is there run /usr/sbin/y
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, CaRLoS mOGUeL wrote:
> I change YDL to Debian 2.2r0 (potato) and everything
> work fine, except that I had 1GB of free unused space.
> Trying to fix this I increase the swap to 320M (first
> mistake - no longer than 256M in case is really needed
> !!), so I leave it to 128M a
Greetings Everybody ...
In the beginning ...
iBook Blueberry
3GB Hard Disk
{
1G - MacOS 8.6
64M - Swap
1GB - YellowDog
1GB - FreeSpace
}
160MB RAM
{
32MB from Factory upgraded to 160MB
thats why I had the original 64M swap partition
}
// dualboot using a bootscript from Yell
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