Re: Powerbook5,6 support

2005-02-11 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 11:27:42AM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > Ok, looks like keyboard and mouse are USB devices: > > Your dmesg shows: > > input: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [Apple Computer Apple Internal > Keyboard/Trackpad] on usb-0001:10:1a.0-2 > HID device not claimed by input or hidd

Re: imacmini & paypal

2005-02-11 Thread Dean Hamstead
which model and what options did you buy? Dean Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 10:41 +1100, Dean Hamstead wrote: or get out your electron microscope and some really small probes and start reverse engineering the chips ;) powerpcs are such a great cpu, alas the hardware attached

Re: albook g4 + external hard drive

2005-02-11 Thread Rogério Brito
On Feb 10 2005, Tamas K Papp wrote: > I about to buy an external hard drive (or an enclosure+hard drive), > either USB or Firewire. Firewire, no questions asked. > If you have specific models which are working with your linux, I would > appreciate if you shared that. I am looking for a cable-pow

Re: Powerbook5,6 support

2005-02-11 Thread John Harrold
Sometime in February Benjamin Herrenschmidt assaulted the keyboard and produced: | Ok, looks like keyboard and mouse are USB devices: Yeah. Odd thing is the keyboard works fine. | Your dmesg shows: | | input: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [Apple Computer Apple Internal | Keyboard/Trackpad] on usb-000

Re: Memory problem

2005-02-11 Thread Cedric Pradalier
According to Vincent Lefevre, on Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:51:25 +0100, >On my PowerBook (2.6.9-powerpc kernel), top says: > > PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND >12457 lefevre 16 0 168m 64m 45m S 0.0 25.6 114:31.11 mozilla-bin >12458 lefevre

Re: external VGA ibook dual usb

2005-02-11 Thread Cedric Pradalier
According to Edoardo Pasca, on Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:57:18 +0100, >Dear all > >I have a iBook 14¨ bought in early 2002. I have recently upgraded to sarge. >Everything seems to be running fine (kernel 2.4.25-ben1). >I do not have a good signal output from the external VGA. I compiled Ben´s >m3mirror

Re: Powerbook5,6 support

2005-02-11 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
Ok, looks like keyboard and mouse are USB devices: Your dmesg shows: input: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [Apple Computer Apple Internal Keyboard/Trackpad] on usb-0001:10:1a.0-2 HID device not claimed by input or hiddev usbhid: probe of 1-2:1.1 failed with error -5 input: USB HID v1.10 Device [Apple Com

Re: Powerbook5,6 support

2005-02-11 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 11:11 +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 11:26 -0500, John Harrold wrote: > > Ok I recently got one of the new powerbooks from apple. I've been fighting > > with getting the mouse to work in X. While I'm new to this from a hardware > > stand point, I'

Re: Powerbook5,6 support

2005-02-11 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 11:26 -0500, John Harrold wrote: > Ok I recently got one of the new powerbooks from apple. I've been fighting > with getting the mouse to work in X. While I'm new to this from a hardware > stand point, I've been using linux for a while. I've had a discussion with > some people

Re: Powerbook5,6 support

2005-02-11 Thread John Harrold
Sometime in February John Harrold assaulted the keyboard and produced: | Sometime in February Colin Leroy assaulted the keyboard and produced: | | | Looks like there's a PMU, but no ADB - contrary to my ibook. But there | | is an usb mouse: | | | | ./[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PR

Re: resizing hfs+ partition

2005-02-11 Thread K.G.
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:45:37 +0100 Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > tags 294773 + upstream > thanks > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 08:45:07PM +0100, K.G. wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:41:42 +0100 > > > BTW, i have a bug report telling me that there is no support for journaled > > > HFS+,

Re: Linux on the Mac Mini -- Updated

2005-02-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 02:09:04PM +0100, Djoume SALVETTI wrote: > Le vendredi 02/11/05 Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > > 2) you say "Build an optimized kernel". I strongly object to this > > recomendation, and ask you to remove it from your howto. The existing > > debian > > ker

Re: Debian versus custom kernel (was: Re: Linux on the Mac Mini -- Updated)

2005-02-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 02:42:59PM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Sven Luther wrote: > > > 2) you say "Build an optimized kernel". I strongly object to this > > recomendation, and ask you to remove it from your howto. The existing > > debian > > kernel should be eno

Re: Linux on the Mac Mini -- Updated

2005-02-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 01:08:47PM +0100, Jack Malmostoso wrote: > Ciao Sven Luther, nel tuo messaggio dicevi: > > > The existing debian > > kernel should be enough for everyone, and i don't believe that you can > > further optimize it. > > I guess the fastest way is to try it by myself, anyw

Re: trackpad on powerbook

2005-02-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 04:55:22PM -0500, John Harrold wrote: > Sometime in February Gabriel Paubert assaulted the keyboard and produced: > > | Well, I've read somewhere that the new powerbooks no more have adb > | internally and the trackpad and keyboard have been replace by > | USB devices. > >

Re: external VGA ibook dual usb

2005-02-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 04:57:18PM +0100, Edoardo Pasca wrote: > Dear all > > I have a iBook 14¨ bought in early 2002. I have recently upgraded to sarge. > Everything seems to be running fine (kernel 2.4.25-ben1). Please, do the right thing, and use one of the debian kernels (either 2.4.27, or be

Re: trackpad on powerbook

2005-02-11 Thread John Harrold
Sometime in February Gabriel Paubert assaulted the keyboard and produced: | Well, I've read somewhere that the new powerbooks no more have adb | internally and the trackpad and keyboard have been replace by | USB devices. Gabriel, my Spanish friend, where have you been these days. I'm compiling t

Re: Linux on the Mac Mini -- Updated

2005-02-11 Thread Djoume SALVETTI
Le vendredi 02/11/05 Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > 2) you say "Build an optimized kernel". I strongly object to this > recomendation, and ask you to remove it from your howto. The existing debian > kernel should be enough for everyone, and i don't believe that you can > furthe

Old-World installation (was: Switching from BootX to quik)

2005-02-11 Thread Rich Johnson
I can run Debian on a 7200/120 _without_ any MacOS partition ? Is my understanding correct ? ABSOLUTELY! It makes a nice little server. It doesn't need to be any faster than my network. Just make sure you have enough disk & ram. I recommend a reasonable (DSL or better) network connection for

Re: resizing hfs+ partition

2005-02-11 Thread Sven Luther
tags 294773 + upstream thanks On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 08:45:07PM +0100, K.G. wrote: > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:41:42 +0100 > > BTW, i have a bug report telling me that there is no support for journaled > > HFS+, could you comment on this ? > > > > Friendly, > > > > Sven Luther > > > > This is t

Re: Debian versus custom kernel (was: Re: Linux on the Mac Mini -- Updated)

2005-02-11 Thread Luis Sanjuan
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 02:42:59PM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Sven Luther wrote: > > > 2) you say "Build an optimized kernel". I strongly object to this > > recomendation, and ask you to remove it from your howto. The existing > > debian > > kernel should be eno

external VGA ibook dual usb

2005-02-11 Thread Edoardo Pasca
Dear all I have a iBook 14¨ bought in early 2002. I have recently upgraded to sarge. Everything seems to be running fine (kernel 2.4.25-ben1). I do not have a good signal output from the external VGA. I compiled Ben´s m3mirror.c and it is actually able to switch the output on and off. The fact i

Re: Switching from BootX to quik

2005-02-11 Thread Eric C. Cooper
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 12:10:47PM -0500, Mehul Sanghvi wrote: > I can run Debian on a 7200/120 _without_ any MacOS partition ? > Is my understanding correct ? > > > > I don't have a MacOS that works on the 7200, so can I do the install > without MacOS ? Or do I need MacOS to do the install a

Re: 2.6.11-rc3: No vmlinux on ppc

2005-02-11 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 the mental interface of Sven Luther told: [...] > Notice that fabbione may have a FTBFS bug-fix for 2.6.11-rc3, but it may or > may not be this same one. > > http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~fabbione/powerpc-fix-ftbfs.dpatch > > From looking at it i think it is probably anot

Re: trackpad on powerbook

2005-02-11 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 04:10:20PM +0100, Colin Leroy wrote: > On 11 Feb 2005 at 10h02, John Harrold wrote: > > Hi, > > > I don't know if you caught this in the original post, but this is a > > new powerbook (released last week). I'm really starting to think that > > the old adb drivers don't wo

Re: Memory problem

2005-02-11 Thread Brad Boyer
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 02:51:25PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On my PowerBook (2.6.9-powerpc kernel), top says: > > PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND > > 12457 lefevre 16 0 168m 64m 45m S 0.0 25.6 114:31.11 mozilla-bin > > 12458 l

Re: Switching from BootX to quik

2005-02-11 Thread Mehul Sanghvi
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:16:52 -0500, Rich Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Modern quik supports initrd. I have an old-world 7200 which, after a > dist-upgrade, is happily running sarge/testing (3.1?) with a stock 2.6 > kernel. Here's the relevant info: > I can run Debian on a 7200/120 _

Re: Linux on the Mac Mini -- Updated

2005-02-11 Thread ViCToRy
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 05:26:29PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > Please make sure to fill a bug report against parted about this. done :) -- Victor Sanahuja (ViCToRy) - Registered Linux User #198934 - http://piscue.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Powerbook5,6 support

2005-02-11 Thread John Harrold
Sometime in February Colin Leroy assaulted the keyboard and produced: | Looks like there's a PMU, but no ADB - contrary to my ibook. But there | is an usb mouse: | | ./[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/mouse | ./[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/mouse | |

Re: Linux on the Mac Mini -- Updated

2005-02-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 04:31:25PM +0100, ViCToRy wrote: > On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 01:10:29PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > 1) debian-installer provided libparted based partman partitioner > > > > should be > > > > able to resize HFS and HFS+ partititons, i have not personally played > > >

Re: Powerbook5,6 support

2005-02-11 Thread Colin Leroy
On 11 Feb 2005 at 11h02, John Harrold wrote: Hi, > http://sage.che.pitt.edu/~harrold/tmp/powerbook/device-tree.tar.gz > > and the output of dmesg: Looks like there's a PMU, but no ADB - contrary to my ibook. But there is an usb mouse: ./[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/mo

Powerbook5,6 support

2005-02-11 Thread John Harrold
Ok I recently got one of the new powerbooks from apple. I've been fighting with getting the mouse to work in X. While I'm new to this from a hardware stand point, I've been using linux for a while. I've had a discussion with some people on the list about getting the track pad to work: http://lists

Re: Switching from BootX to quik

2005-02-11 Thread Rich Johnson
On Friday, February 11, 2005, at 03:15 AM, Hans Ekbrand wrote: I am also interesting boot with quick, but I thought that required an non-initrd kernel. Thus, I thought, you could not use stock debian kernels. Is it only 2.6 kernels that use initrd by default in Debian? Or can quick handle initrd

Re: trackpad on powerbook

2005-02-11 Thread Colin Leroy
On 11 Feb 2005 at 15h02, James Tappin wrote: Hi, > I think you mean > sudo tar -zcf device-tree.tgz /proc/device-tree >^ Er, yes. I even thought explicitly "don't miss and put an x instead of a c" while writing my mail. :) -- Colin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: trackpad on powerbook

2005-02-11 Thread James Tappin
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:29:59 +0100 Colin Leroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: CL> On 11 Feb 2005 at 10h02, John Harrold wrote: CL> CL> Hi, CL> CL> > | (`sudo tar -zxf device-tree.tgz /proc/device-tree` should do) CL> > CL> > Sure I can do that. Do I post a message to this list or somewhere CL> > e

Re: Linux on the Mac Mini -- Updated

2005-02-11 Thread ViCToRy
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 01:10:29PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > 1) debian-installer provided libparted based partman partitioner should > > > be > > > able to resize HFS and HFS+ partititons, i have not personally played > > > much > > > with it, but it should work. Feedback is welcome. > >

Re: trackpad on powerbook

2005-02-11 Thread Colin Leroy
On 11 Feb 2005 at 10h02, John Harrold wrote: Hi, > | (`sudo tar -zxf device-tree.tgz /proc/device-tree` should do) > > Sure I can do that. Do I post a message to this list or somewhere > else? Yes, here :) -- Colin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: trackpad on powerbook

2005-02-11 Thread John Harrold
Sometime in February Colin Leroy assaulted the keyboard and produced: | Ah, I missed that fact. Maybe they work differently, indeed. What you | could do is create a tarball of your /proc/device-tree and post that | somewhere online, so that the real PPC hackers (that is, not me :-)) can | maybe se

Re: trackpad on powerbook

2005-02-11 Thread Colin Leroy
On 11 Feb 2005 at 10h02, John Harrold wrote: Hi, > I don't know if you caught this in the original post, but this is a > new powerbook (released last week). I'm really starting to think that > the old adb drivers don't work with the newer models. Ah, I missed that fact. Maybe they work differen

Re: trackpad on powerbook

2005-02-11 Thread John Harrold
Sometime in February Colin Leroy assaulted the keyboard and produced: | Hi, | | > adb: starting probe task... | > adb: finished probe task... | > ... | > mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice | > | > There is nothing between the starting and finished probe. Perhaps that | > is my problem ;).

Re: trackpad on powerbook

2005-02-11 Thread Colin Leroy
On 11 Feb 2005 at 08h02, John Harrold wrote: Hi, > adb: starting probe task... > adb: finished probe task... > ... > mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice > > There is nothing between the starting and finished probe. Perhaps that > is my problem ;). Certainly :) > | What does your kerne

Memory problem

2005-02-11 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On my PowerBook (2.6.9-powerpc kernel), top says: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 12457 lefevre 16 0 168m 64m 45m S 0.0 25.6 114:31.11 mozilla-bin 12458 lefevre 16 0 168m 64m 45m S 0.0 25.6 0:00.21 mozilla-bin 12459 le

Re: trackpad on powerbook

2005-02-11 Thread John Harrold
Sometime in February Colin Leroy assaulted the keyboard and produced: | That's wrong... Sure, Probably, I'm new here. | Do you have something like that in your dmesg log ? | | adb: starting probe task... | adb devices: [2]: 2 c4 [3]: 3 1 [7]: 7 1f | ADB keyboard at 2, handler 1 | Detected ADB k

Re: Buy benh (or other) a minimac Re: Hi question about mac - mini

2005-02-11 Thread Dean Hamstead
given that ben paid a little out of his pocket im sure it will payback a little and still count ben will no doubt still be warmed by your donation ;) looking forward to seeing some pics and some results Dean On Fri, February 11, 2005 7:47 pm, Philipp Käser said: > hej ben, > >> Ok, I've revived

Re: Switching from BootX to quik

2005-02-11 Thread Eric C. Cooper
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 09:15:28AM +0100, Hans Ekbrand wrote: > On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 04:00:56PM -0500, Eric C. Cooper wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 01:51:04PM -0500, Rich Johnson wrote: > > > The time has come for me to decommission OS 9 from my old-word 8500 and > > > go pure linux--but t

Re: trackpad on powerbook

2005-02-11 Thread Colin Leroy
On 11 Feb 2005 at 08h02, John Harrold wrote: Hi, > I tried Ubuntu and the mouse didn't work there either. I managed to > open a terminal and look at the xorg.conf file. It appeared as though > the track pad was using /dev/psaux (according to ubuntu). That's wrong... Do you have something like

Re: Debian versus custom kernel

2005-02-11 Thread Philipp Kaeser
salut martin, I strongly disagree. Debian's kernels are good one-size-fits-all kernels, but they definitely lack in efficiency and perfomance speed. The difference in speed between my custom kernels and the stock Debian kernels is like night and day. On every architecture, my custom kernels produc

Re: trackpad on powerbook

2005-02-11 Thread John Harrold
Sometime in February Moritz Armingeon assaulted the keyboard and produced: | On 08:40 Thu 10 Feb , John Harrold wrote: | > /dev/input/mice | > /dev/input/mouse0 | > /dev/input/mouse1 | > /dev/psaux | I'm using /dev/mouse which seems to point at /dev/input/mice, but maybe it's | worth a try? T

Re: trackpad on powerbook

2005-02-11 Thread John Harrold
Sometime in February Maximilian Gerlach assaulted the keyboard and produced: | You could try the Ubuntu LiveCD and look if it works there. | If it does you can either copy the working xorg.conf (and change it to a | working XF86Config-4 ;).) or install Ubuntu :) I tried Ubuntu and the mouse didn'

Debian versus custom kernel (was: Re: Linux on the Mac Mini -- Updated)

2005-02-11 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Sven Luther wrote: > 2) you say "Build an optimized kernel". I strongly object to this > recomendation, and ask you to remove it from your howto. The existing debian > kernel should be enough for everyone, and i don't believe that you can > further optimize it. I stro

Re: Linux on the Mac Mini -- Updated

2005-02-11 Thread Jack Malmostoso
Ciao Sven Luther, nel tuo messaggio dicevi: > The existing debian > kernel should be enough for everyone, and i don't believe that you can > further optimize it. I guess the fastest way is to try it by myself, anyway: now debian kernels support iBooks? I mean, there is no need to recompile it

Re: trackpad on powerbook

2005-02-11 Thread Sebastian Henschel
hello... * John Harrold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-02-11 09:08 +0100]: > Sometime in February Sebastian Henschel assaulted the keyboard and > produced: > > | hm, i do not think so. i have scrollwheel functionality with the help of > | mouseemu (http://www.geekounet.org/powerbook/files/mouseemu.tar

Re: Linux on the Mac Mini -- Updated

2005-02-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 11:43:46AM +, William R Sowerbutts wrote: > Hi Sven, > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 12:18:08PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > 1) debian-installer provided libparted based partman partitioner should be > > able to resize HFS and HFS+ partititons, i have not personally play

Re: Linux on the Mac Mini -- Updated

2005-02-11 Thread William R Sowerbutts
Hi Sven, On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 12:18:08PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > 1) debian-installer provided libparted based partman partitioner should be > able to resize HFS and HFS+ partititons, i have not personally played much > with it, but it should work. Feedback is welcome. That's clever. I'l

Re: Linux on the Mac Mini -- Updated

2005-02-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 11:12:15AM +, William R Sowerbutts wrote: > Hi all, > > I've updated my "Linux on the Mac Mini" article. > > http://sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/ > > Most of the updates are towards the end. > > The article now contains a guide which will help you to convert a tim

Re: Kernel+Installer for hardisk boot on pb5300c

2005-02-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 10:06:39PM -0800, Brandon Lewis wrote: > To whom it may concern, > > I'm experimenting with running linux on a powerbook 5300c. While I know > that debian doesn't officially support this platform, i've found > experimental support at: > > http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.ne

Linux on the Mac Mini -- Updated

2005-02-11 Thread William R Sowerbutts
Hi all, I've updated my "Linux on the Mac Mini" article. http://sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/ Most of the updates are towards the end. The article now contains a guide which will help you to convert a timid, fresh out of the box Mac Mini system into a raging, dual boot Debian/Mac OS X system

Re: Buy benh (or other) a minimac Re: Hi question about mac - mini

2005-02-11 Thread Philipp Käser
hej ben, > Ok, I've revived the PayPal account, but it's causing me trouble as > it's locked to beeing in France, I can't seem to change my address to > Australia nor update the credit card info to something local here > in .au. So what I did was to open a new one with the email address me->trans

Re: imacmini

2005-02-11 Thread Menno Jonkers
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > I will cover the rest (unless others pop up in the meantime :) Pop! Sent you $50. Good luck liberating the little fellow. Menno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Switching from BootX to quik

2005-02-11 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 04:00:56PM -0500, Eric C. Cooper wrote: > On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 01:51:04PM -0500, Rich Johnson wrote: > > The time has come for me to decommission OS 9 from my old-word 8500 and > > go pure linux--but to do it without re-installing or repartitioning the > > disks. [...]