Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven, archdetect reports powerpc/powermac_oldworld In real life, it's a beige G3 mini-tower. Hope this helps, Rick Sven Luther wrote: > >> libd-i or yaboot or something bug. Maybe archdetect is involved too. Can > you try going to the second console with alt+F2, and send the output of

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> > > > Do you have the System.map that corresponds to this kernel ? It's > > needed to decode the numbers above. > > It's the standard woody powerpc kernel, from the current CD I think > (downloaded it a couple of days ago). There's a copy of the sysmap on > the CD; I'll email it direct t

Re: Announcing: PPC Linux Version of OpenOffice.org 1.1.1

2004-03-30 Thread Jason E. Stewart
"Kevin B.Hendricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > (BTW. What kind of functionality Java brings to OOo that you don't have > > in the first place ?) > > > > Java is currently used both in the build itself and for > - All accessibility features for handicapped and disabled (requires > JDK 1.4.1)

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 01:48:40PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > > Now when I try and boot into the Linux installer, I always get a crash: > > > > Machine check in kernel mode. (regs at c01f5ea0) > > Caused by (from srr1): Unknown values in srr1 > > NIP: C015E3CC XER: LR

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Ron Murray
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: Now when I try and boot into the Linux installer, I always get a crash: Machine check in kernel mode. (regs at c01f5ea0) Caused by (from srr1): Unknown values in srr1 NIP: C015E3CC XER: LR: C0163014 REGS: c01f5ea0 TRAP: 0200 MSR: 1030 [IR, DR, ME] TASK

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 06:57:30PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > 7) At some point inform d-i that I don't want it to > install a boot loader. > (*how???*) d-i shouldn't even be trying to install yaboot-installer at all. Can you get the contents of d-i's /var/log/syslog into a mail? It should con

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread jmdeleu
Sorry to butt in, but Woody installs just fine on Old World Macs using boot floppies and BootX and you can apt-get dist-upgrade to Sarge. I have a Mac 7300/180 running Sarge and kernel 2.4.25-ben1. friendly, -- jean-michel

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> > Now when I try and boot into the Linux installer, I always get a crash: > > Machine check in kernel mode. (regs at c01f5ea0) > Caused by (from srr1): Unknown values in srr1 > NIP: C015E3CC XER: LR: C0163014 REGS: c01f5ea0 TRAP: 0200 > MSR: 1030 [IR, DR, ME] > TASK = c01f41e0[0]

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Ron Murray
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: BootX version is 1.2.2. As for PCI cards, yes, I have three: 1. Atto "Express PCI" SCSI card. Has a SYM53c875 chip. No other markings. 2. Apple iX 3D video board. iXMICRO chip set. TI TVP3030 chip and iXMICRO Twin Turbo 9135-388. 3. Apple Fast Ethernet 10/10

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> > BootX version is 1.2.2. As for PCI cards, yes, I have three: > > 1. Atto "Express PCI" SCSI card. Has a SYM53c875 chip. No other markings. > > 2. Apple iX 3D video board. iXMICRO chip set. TI TVP3030 chip and > iXMICRO Twin Turbo 9135-388. > > 3. Apple Fast Ethernet 10/100Base-T Ca

Re: Announcing: PPC Linux Version of OpenOffice.org 1.1.1

2004-03-30 Thread Kevin B . Hendricks
Hi Ben, Is this needed for the build or can it be built and JDK added later ? The JDK is needed for a full normal build of OOo but Debian and others use patches to disable Java since Java itself is not free. Much of the functionality is present without the need for Java. Actually, my ques

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Ron Murray
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 09:39, Ron Murray wrote: I've been having lots of problems getting woody installed on a Power Mac G3 minitower (300MHz processor, 128M RAM). Being an oldworld box, I can't boot it from CD. I tried installing from floppies, but that tended

Re: Announcing: PPC Linux Version of OpenOffice.org 1.1.1

2004-03-30 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> They are actually very very close. In fact, you can actually use > symlinks to fool OOo to accept the IBM JDK and then go ahead and use > it. > > Once I reboot into PPC Linux I will dig up what symlinks I added and > send them to you and you can use them temporarily until I get the > sourc

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 07:46:35PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > I've gotten this far already several times. If I chose "continue > without..." it complains that there are already files in the filesystem > it's trying to install into. If I say go-ahead anyway, it downloads a > bunch of duplicate pa

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Rick Thomas
I've gotten this far already several times. If I chose "continue without..." it complains that there are already files in the filesystem it's trying to install into. If I say go-ahead anyway, it downloads a bunch of duplicate packages and crashes when trying to re-install them. I'm hoping that i

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 06:57:30PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Is there some way to tell d-i to not try to install a boot > loader? I think that if I could get past that point, I > might be able to finish a sarge new d-i installation using > BootX as the boot loader. Yes, it fails and then you

Re: Announcing: PPC Linux Version of OpenOffice.org 1.1.1

2004-03-30 Thread Kevin B . Hendricks
Hi Ben, The old JDK is the one I use with OOo. I know that work is still ongoing at Blackdown for PPC Linux since Sun expressed some interest in it recently (but not enough to actually find me to do it) so I have pretty much given up on it. Frankly I use the IBM jdk 1.4.1 for almost everyth

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Rick Thomas
Is there some way to tell d-i to not try to install a boot loader? I think that if I could get past that point, I might be able to finish a sarge new d-i installation using BootX as the boot loader. Here's what I think I'd need to do: 1) Install MacOS (8.x or 9.x) in an HFS (*not* HFS+) partiti

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 09:39, Ron Murray wrote: > I've been having lots of problems getting woody installed on a Power > Mac G3 minitower (300MHz processor, 128M RAM). Being an oldworld box, I > can't boot it from CD. I tried installing from floppies, but that tended > to mostly crash just af

Re: Announcing: PPC Linux Version of OpenOffice.org 1.1.1

2004-03-30 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 02:28, Kevin B.Hendricks wrote: > FYI only, > > OpenOffice.org announces OpenOffice.org 1.1.1 for PPC Linux is now > available on the StarDiv and YellowDog Linux Mirrors and selected other > locations. > > http://porting.openoffice.org/linuxppc/ppclinks.html > > This cont

Re: hardware-monitor needs build on powerpc

2004-03-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 08:56:23AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 21:03, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 05:03:50PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 13:25, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > > > This is the last thing preventing

Re: hardware-monitor needs build on powerpc

2004-03-30 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 21:03, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 05:03:50PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 13:25, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > > This is the last thing preventing the new lm-sensors and > > > various depending packages from making it into 'sar

Re: How to install on iBook 2? [was: Re: iBook 2 fresh install]

2004-03-30 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
Apologies; I should have read section 4.2 of the manual. (http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.powerpc/ch04s02.html) Sorry to bother everyone. Rory On 30/03/04, Rory Campbell-Lange ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Thanks for the links to the daily builds, Sven. > > None of the files mentioned in

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 04:41:55PM -0500, Ron Murray wrote: > At Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:30:25 +0200, > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 04:01:59PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > Ron, > > > > > > I've done it (install woody on an OldWorld PowerMac) successfully.

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Ron Murray
At Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:30:25 +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 04:01:59PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Ron, > > > > I've done it (install woody on an OldWorld PowerMac) successfully. > > Email me at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> if you need help. > > > > You need

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 04:01:59PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > Ron, > > I've done it (install woody on an OldWorld PowerMac) successfully. > Email me at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> if you need help. > > You need BootX, as you have found out. You also need to make sure that > your MacOS partition is HFS

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Rick Thomas
Ron, You don't need to mess with floppies. BootX, which you are already using, works just fine -- and it handles kernels and ramdisk images that are too big for a floppy. Once you get into the debian installer, you will discover that it insists on trying to install the "yaboot" bootloader, which

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Rick Thomas
Ron, I've done it (install woody on an OldWorld PowerMac) successfully. Email me at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> if you need help. You need BootX, as you have found out. You also need to make sure that your MacOS partition is HFS, not HFS+, so that you can copy updated kernels to it while running Linux.

Re: Starting X on PPC RS6K box running 2.4.25

2004-03-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 08:33:25AM -0800, Daniel Narkis wrote: > Hi Sven, > > The only way I could start the installation is by > using your kernel + initrd of 2.4.25 - from there it > goes to network installation. I didn't try to hack it > to install from the offical Woody CDs I got and I was > q

Re: iBook 2 fresh install

2004-03-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 07:18:50PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > Hi Sven > > Thanks for your message. > > On 30/03/04, Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 05:52:56PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > > > This has probably been covered hundreds of times -- so

Re: Starting X on PPC RS6K box running 2.4.25

2004-03-30 Thread Daniel Narkis
Hi Sven, The only way I could start the installation is by using your kernel + initrd of 2.4.25 - from there it goes to network installation. I didn't try to hack it to install from the offical Woody CDs I got and I was quite happy that it installs at all. If I remember well I think I got the cho

Re: iBook 2 fresh install

2004-03-30 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
Hi Sven Thanks for your message. On 30/03/04, Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 05:52:56PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > > This has probably been covered hundreds of times -- sorry! > > > > I'm used to the install process Branden outlines on his page, using >

Re: iBook 2 fresh install

2004-03-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 05:52:56PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > This has probably been covered hundreds of times -- sorry! > > I'm used to the install process Branden outlines on his page, using > yaboot. However the latest install shows something like this: > > > ftp://ftp.uk.debian.

iBook 2 fresh install

2004-03-30 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
This has probably been covered hundreds of times -- sorry! I'm used to the install process Branden outlines on his page, using yaboot. However the latest install shows something like this: ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-powerpc/beta3/images/powerpc/netboot in

Announcing: PPC Linux Version of OpenOffice.org 1.1.1

2004-03-30 Thread Kevin B . Hendricks
FYI only, OpenOffice.org announces OpenOffice.org 1.1.1 for PPC Linux is now available on the StarDiv and YellowDog Linux Mirrors and selected other locations. http://porting.openoffice.org/linuxppc/ppclinks.html This contributed build was made on an almost stock YDL 3.0 machine and therefo

Re: ReiserFS on Powerbook?

2004-03-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 08:03:42AM -0500, Derrik Pates wrote: > Jens Schmalzing wrote: > >If you are loooking for an alternative journalling filesystems, you > >may want to give xfs a try. I've used it on my powerbooks for quite > >some time now. It's probably never mentioned in installation repo

Re: ReiserFS on Powerbook?

2004-03-30 Thread Derrik Pates
Jens Schmalzing wrote: If you are loooking for an alternative journalling filesystems, you may want to give xfs a try. I've used it on my powerbooks for quite some time now. It's probably never mentioned in installation reports because until recently, it required a patched kernel source tree.

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 06:39:29PM -0500, Ron Murray wrote: >I've been having lots of problems getting woody installed on a Power > Mac G3 minitower (300MHz processor, 128M RAM). Being an oldworld box, I > can't boot it from CD. I tried installing from floppies, but that tended > to mostly c

Re: Starting X on PPC RS6K box running 2.4.25

2004-03-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 02:46:54PM -0800, Daniel Narkis wrote: > Hi, > > I have a problem starting X on RS6K F50 box. I've used > vanilla 2.4.25 sources and compiled support for Matrox > cards. Why you don't use the official debian packages, which are known to work on F50 hardware ? WE should eve

Re: hardware-monitor needs build on powerpc

2004-03-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 05:03:50PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 13:25, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > This is the last thing preventing the new lm-sensors and > > various depending packages from making it into 'sarge'. > > I don't like the idea of lm-sensors mucking wi

Re: 2.6.4 on a pismo?

2004-03-30 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Jim Altieri writes: > >Standard reply: use pmac_defconfig. > Ben, thanks for your reply, but I have to say (for the sake of the > archive record) that pmac_defconfig causes a compilation error, when it > tries to compile the macserial components. Standard reply: Remove CONFIG_MAC_SERIAL, th

Re: ReiserFS on Powerbook?

2004-03-30 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Brady Jarvis writes: > Everything I have read on installing GNU/Linux on Powerbooks deals > with either Ext2 or Ext3, with no mention of ReiserFS. [...] I > wanted to ask if it was a reasonable expectation to see it supported > on PPC hardware. If you are loooking for an alternative journall

Re: Problems with install on Power Mac G3 minitower

2004-03-30 Thread Clive Menzies
On (29/03/04 18:39), Ron Murray wrote: >I've been having lots of problems getting woody installed on a Power > Mac G3 minitower (300MHz processor, 128M RAM). Being an oldworld box, I > can't boot it from CD. I tried installing from floppies, but that tended > to mostly crash just after check

Re: 2.6.4 on a pismo?

2004-03-30 Thread jim altieri
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 17:13, jim altieri wrote: Hello - I've tried Derrick's .config (starting from mrproper) and my system still doesn't boot properly. First of all, it doesn't mount my ext3 partition. It says it has an invalid superblock, and can't run fsc

Re: Dual display with Gnome 2.4

2004-03-30 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> The display I am trying to set up is a 17" TFT screen. I have been > trying both the DVI direct connection and the DVI/VGA adapter with no > success at all. In fact, the display shows some sort of scrambled > dessign where some parts of the Gnome desktop can be recognized (for > example, a movin

Re: hardware-monitor needs build on powerpc

2004-03-30 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 13:25, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > This is the last thing preventing the new lm-sensors and > various depending packages from making it into 'sarge'. I don't like the idea of lm-sensors mucking with the i2c busses on Apple machines, not AT ALL. I _MUCH_ prefer dedicated drivers

Re: ReiserFS on Powerbook?

2004-03-30 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 09:27, Brady Jarvis wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Everything I have read on installing GNU/Linux on Powerbooks deals with > either Ext2 or Ext3, with no mention of ReiserFS. I know there are power > management issues with Ext2 vs. Ext3, but I ha