Re: share partition between macosx and debian

2003-10-14 Thread Chris Tillman
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 11:35:18PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 21:57, Rogério Brito wrote: > > On Oct 14 2003, David Röhr wrote: > > > I would like to test the new installer on my oldworld in the near future > > (and possibly help with reports). If anybody knows of any g

OT: dirty tibook

2003-10-14 Thread emorfin
Hi! My tibook is dirty. i tried to clean it, but i can't. Near the keyboard are cat footprints. All is cover with fingerpritns. Near the apple light is a horrible black spot, like a scratch, but is only a black substance, like oil, or something like that. What can i use to clean it? Thanks for

Re: Proposed patch: ppcdetect -> archdetect

2003-10-14 Thread Matt Kraai
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 07:36:04AM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: > Could someone review this patch? I tested the build image yesterday, > and one of the problems it ran into was not finding /usr/bin/ppcdetect. > I remembered archdetect had replaced ppcdetect, this looks like what > is needed to comp

Re: share partition between macosx and debian

2003-10-14 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 21:57, Rogério Brito wrote: > On Oct 14 2003, David Röhr wrote: > I would like to test the new installer on my oldworld in the near future > (and possibly help with reports). If anybody knows of any gotchas, I'd > love to know. > The d-i team would appreciate your help. We s

Re: Ethernet problem -- Network completely dies

2003-10-14 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Sorry, that box is having issues (maybe some bad memory), haven't straightened it out yet. :-( Will let you know ASAP. On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:28:11PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Nathan Ingersoll wrote: > > I'll test it out tonight and get back to you on it. > > And?

Re: Ethernet problem -- Network completely dies

2003-10-14 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Nathan Ingersoll wrote: > I'll test it out tonight and get back to you on it. And? Any success? > Thanks, > Nathan > > On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 04:43:20PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Nathan Ingersoll wrote: > > > Not at one of those machines presen

Re: PINE for ppc?

2003-10-14 Thread Rogério Brito
On Oct 14 2003, Sven Luther wrote: > Or use a free alternative (like mutt, which can be made to behave in > pine way). Exactly. Since I was a former pine user, when I migrated to mutt, I made it work with some of the same keybindings that pine uses. I have been happier since then. I think that I

Re: share partition between macosx and debian

2003-10-14 Thread Rogério Brito
On Oct 14 2003, Thomas Otto wrote: > Also MOL can't boot an OS X that is on a UFS partiion. And IIRC, there are some programs that don't work correctly (e.g., Mozilla) when you're using an UFS filesystem. []s, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Re: share partition between macosx and debian

2003-10-14 Thread Rogério Brito
On Oct 14 2003, David Röhr wrote: > MacOS can't read ext2/ext3. But Linux can read USF and read/write to > HFS+ (YOU SHOULDN'T!), but you can if you want :) There is one plugin/kernel extension for macosx to be able to read/write to ext2 partitions, but, IME, it is still quite immature and you sho

Re: Proposed patch: ppcdetect -> archdetect

2003-10-14 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 07:36:04AM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: > Could someone review this patch? I tested the build image yesterday, > and one of the problems it ran into was not finding /usr/bin/ppcdetect. > I remembered archdetect had replaced ppcdetect, this looks like what > is needed to comp

Re: prelink does not work correctly on powerpc

2003-10-14 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 19:21, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 07:16:07PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > Yes, it's a bit unfortunate that the problem only manifests itself at > > runtime (and not 100% deterministically... although prelinking 'helps' > > somewhat there), but AFA

Re: PINE for ppc?

2003-10-14 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 04:10:57PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Adam Bell wrote: > > So, I'm in the process of building a new main server using Debian-ppc, > > but I ran into an unexpected snafu. Due to the other people who use > > the box and their nostalgia / prefere

Re: prelink does not work correctly on powerpc

2003-10-14 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 07:16:07PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > Sure we're having pretty much the same issues on mips. PPC seems to be > > different as it "allows" non pic code to work to a certain extent at > > least. All MIPS userland code is PIC unless Debian's been doing some major ABI chan

Re: prelink does not work correctly on powerpc

2003-10-14 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 15:50, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 03:31:51PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > objdump -R /usr/lib/libavcodec-0.4.8.so|grep R_PPC_REL24 > Can you point me to a current copy of Linux PPC ELF ABI so I can check > these things myself in the future? Had to goog

Re: [PATCH] Right-click modifier

2003-10-14 Thread Carlos Perelló Marín
El mar, 14-10-2003 a las 15:29, Stewart Smith escribió: [...] > > > ie, "echo 29 > /proc/sys/dev/mac_hid/rclick_key_modifier" and you'll have > > Ctrl-click = right click. > > call me mentally challenged, but how does one determine what the > keycodes are to do these things? i.e. how do we find

Re: PINE for ppc?

2003-10-14 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:06:06AM -0400, Adam Bell wrote: > Hey all! > > So, I'm in the process of building a new main server using Debian-ppc, > but I ran into an unexpected snafu. Due to the other people who use > the box and their nostalgia / preferences PINE is a make-or-break > package f

Proposed patch: ppcdetect -> archdetect

2003-10-14 Thread Chris Tillman
Could someone review this patch? I tested the build image yesterday, and one of the problems it ran into was not finding /usr/bin/ppcdetect. I remembered archdetect had replaced ppcdetect, this looks like what is needed to complete the transition for powerpc. Index: tools/base-installer/debian/ch

Re: share partition between macosx and debian

2003-10-14 Thread Thomas Otto
I have a friend who did it but he had to make a FAT partition to share a partition because linux does not write on usf. Is this statement still true? Can macosx r/o on ext2-3? MacOS can't read ext2/ext3. But Linux can read USF UFS, I assume. Linux can read it, see /usr/src/linux/Documentatio

Re: share partition between macosx and debian

2003-10-14 Thread Stewart Smith
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 20:11, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > I have a friend who did it but he had to make a FAT partition to share a > partition because linux does not write on usf. Is this statement still > true? Can macosx r/o on ext2-3? There is a ext2 driver floating around for MacOS X, and appare

Re: [ballen@gravity.phys.uwm.edu: Re: Re: HDD failing? :'( (fwd)]

2003-10-14 Thread Bruce Allen
You need a new disk. If under warranty call Fujitsu. They may ask you to run their "disk test" utility. It will find the same problem. If you are lucky you'll get someone who understand when you say "it failed the extended SMART self test" and they'll not make you go through the additional step

Re: PINE for ppc?

2003-10-14 Thread Guido Guenther
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:06:06AM -0400, Adam Bell wrote: > So, I'm in the process of building a new main server using Debian-ppc, > but I ran into an unexpected snafu. Due to the other people who use > the box and their nostalgia / preferences PINE is a make-or-break > package for me. I need

Re: PINE for ppc?

2003-10-14 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Adam Bell wrote: > So, I'm in the process of building a new main server using Debian-ppc, > but I ran into an unexpected snafu. Due to the other people who use > the box and their nostalgia / preferences PINE is a make-or-break > package for me. I need it. I also have no

Re: PINE for ppc?

2003-10-14 Thread Jesús Roncero
El 14/Oct/2003 a las 10:06:06, Adam Bell escribió: > So I was going to enter RPM hell and use alien and all, but then I > thought that a lot of people might have already done this and I should > check in with you folks. Anyone have a .deb already built (or even > just a tarball of the binaries,

PINE for ppc?

2003-10-14 Thread Adam Bell
Hey all! So, I'm in the process of building a new main server using Debian-ppc, but I ran into an unexpected snafu. Due to the other people who use the box and their nostalgia / preferences PINE is a make-or-break package for me. I need it. I also have no desire at all to recompile it. S

Re: prelink does not work correctly on powerpc

2003-10-14 Thread Guido Guenther
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 03:31:51PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > objdump -R /usr/lib/libavcodec-0.4.8.so|grep R_PPC_REL24 Can you point me to a current copy of Linux PPC ELF ABI so I can check these things myself in the future? > shows, it's fine now, thanks. BTW, this isn't a PPC specific problem

Re: XFree86 UseFBDev & 2.6.0-test7-benh

2003-10-14 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 05:44, Wesley Morgan wrote: > I just rsync'ed the latest linux-2.5-benh from the > theorie.physik.uni-muenchen.de server today, and XFree86 seems to be > unable to find the framebuffer device when I boot w/ it. I have > /dev/fb/0 and /dev/fb/1 (using devfs; /dev/fb0 & /dev/

Re: [ballen@gravity.phys.uwm.edu: Re: Re: HDD failing? :'( (fwd)]

2003-10-14 Thread J. Javier Maestro
On Oct Tue 14 2003 08:32, Bruce Allen wrote: > You need a new disk. If under warranty call Fujitsu. They may ask you to > run their "disk test" utility. It will find the same problem. If you are > lucky you'll get someone who understand when you say "it failed the > extended SMART self test" an

Re: [PATCH] Right-click modifier

2003-10-14 Thread Colin Leroy
Hi, > call me mentally challenged, but how does one determine what the > keycodes are to do these things? i.e. how do we find the ctrl->29 > mapping? I found it in include/linux/input.h . (un-Ccing Benjamin) -- Colin Récursion (n.m.): voir Récursion

Re: st15150n (4GB FAST SCSI hard disk) problems on an 8500

2003-10-14 Thread Chris Tillman
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 12:27:29AM -0800, dylan wrote: > few days ago tried installing woody onto an 8500. > > found out that there was some bad ram, so i tried the same HD in a different > 8500 with NEW RAM (256MB). > > install went just fine, however, the kernel would report SCSI disk errors at

Re: [ballen@gravity.phys.uwm.edu: Re: Re: HDD failing? :'( (fwd)]

2003-10-14 Thread J. Javier Maestro
On Oct Tue 14 2003 15:07, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:54:43PM +1000, J. Javier Maestro wrote: > > Self-test execution status: ( 105) The previous self-test > > completed having > > the servo (and/or seek) element of the > >

Re: prelink does not work correctly on powerpc

2003-10-14 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 10:49, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 11:45:32PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 23:13, Andrés Roldán wrote: > > > > > > R_PPC_REL24 relocation can show only in non-pic shared libraries on PPC, > > > which is a bad idea on all platforms

Re: [PATCH] Right-click modifier

2003-10-14 Thread Stewart Smith
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 07:18, Colin Leroy wrote: > It lets the kernel report a right-click when KEY+Left click are pressed, > where KEY is the KEY specified by echoing its code to the /proc entry. It'd be even cooler if this was extended to have an option for middle click as well :) I'll attempt t

Re: share partition between macosx and debian

2003-10-14 Thread Jens Schmalzing
Hi, Arnaud Vandyck writes: > I have a friend who did it but he had to make a FAT partition to > share a partition because linux does not write on usf. Is this > statement still true? FAT is still your best bet when it comes to sharing a file system. In principle, Linux can write HFS and HFS+,

Re: [ballen@gravity.phys.uwm.edu: Re: Re: HDD failing? :'( (fwd)]

2003-10-14 Thread Guido Guenther
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:54:43PM +1000, J. Javier Maestro wrote: > Self-test execution status: ( 105) The previous self-test > completed having > the servo (and/or seek) element of the > test failed. This doe

Re: [ballen@gravity.phys.uwm.edu: Re: Re: HDD failing? :'( (fwd)]

2003-10-14 Thread J. Javier Maestro
On Oct Tue 14 2003 14:21, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 09:23:30PM +1000, J. Javier Maestro wrote: > > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 > > No self-tests have been logged > Could you run "smartctl -t long " and see if anything changes here? I just finished it! :) 8

Re: [ballen@gravity.phys.uwm.edu: Re: Re: HDD failing? :'( (fwd)]

2003-10-14 Thread Guido Guenther
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 09:23:30PM +1000, J. Javier Maestro wrote: > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 > No self-tests have been logged Could you run "smartctl -t long " and see if anything changes here? -- Guido signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: share partition between macosx and debian

2003-10-14 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: Last thing, I'll probably use Branden Robinson's help page to install, but is there any documentation about the new debian-installer? Maybe I can try it and help with a report? You can find debian-installer images on http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/powe

Re: [ballen@gravity.phys.uwm.edu: Re: Re: HDD failing? :'( (fwd)]

2003-10-14 Thread J. Javier Maestro
Guido, here is the test with smartctl -v 9,seconds -t offline /dev/hda4 smartctl version 5.1-18 Copyright (C) 2002-3 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Device Model: FUJITSU MHS2060AT Serial Number:NL24T3114CF3 Firmware Ver

Re: Upgrade Mac OS X 10.2.8 stops 2.4.21-ben2

2003-10-14 Thread Daniel Germann
> > > > Now I have installed the '1.2.8old -> 1.2.8new' update from apple.com, > > however still no change. Not a single of my old 2.6 images (that have > > been running for a month or so) would boot anymore. > > > > I suspect that apple somehow did a hidden openfirmare upgrade in that > > MacOS u

Re: share partition between macosx and debian

2003-10-14 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 12:11:41PM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > I'm new to the list... I've just bought a powermbook G4 15' A 15-foot PowerBook? Wow. Awesome. :) > and would like (as a futur DD ;)) to install Debian on it but maybe > also want to keep mac os x on it. I'd be interested in

Re: share partition between macosx and debian

2003-10-14 Thread David Röhr
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 [12:11], Arnaud Vandyck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm new to the list... I've just bought a powermbook G4 15' and would > like (as a futur DD ;)) to install Debian on it but maybe also want to > keep mac os x on it. > > I already installed Debian on

Re: share partition between macosx and debian

2003-10-14 Thread Serge Basterot
Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > Hi all, Hi mew user ;-) > I have a friend who did it but he had to make a FAT partition to share a > partition because linux does not write on usf. Linux can write on hfs+ file system with last benh kernel. But if you want a readable partition for L

share partition between macosx and debian

2003-10-14 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Hi all, I'm new to the list... I've just bought a powermbook G4 15' and would like (as a futur DD ;)) to install Debian on it but maybe also want to keep mac os x on it. I already installed Debian on a g3 at home (but only with Debian), and this time, I'd like to have both systems... (

Mozilla 1.0.0 stable, plugins instalation

2003-10-14 Thread Pedro Alves
Dear Friends How can I install plugins into mozilla browser 1.0.0 stable? for instance x-java-vm? I tried logged as user and the installation was denied (aspected), but although instalation as root was sucessful, the plugin is not working as it should if it was installed? Any clue? The same happen

[ballen@gravity.phys.uwm.edu: Re: Re: HDD failing? :'( (fwd)]

2003-10-14 Thread Guido Guenther
-- Forwarded message -- > I am also sending the smartclt -a /dev/hda4 results, in case someone > wiser than me knows how to read more stuff than I do in them! :) use the -v 9,seconds option to smartctl. > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 080 080 024Pre-fail Always

Re: error while compiling 2.6

2003-10-14 Thread Nirmal Govind
Known bug. Simply a forgotten closing } in an if clause in pcnet32_probe1. See if you can spot it in the source, or look up a patch on linuxppc-dev. Aah.. thanks for the tip.. figured out the missing } .. and the compile continues.. :-) Thanks, nirmal

Re: error while compiling 2.6

2003-10-14 Thread Michael Schmitz
> I downloaded from mvista and tried compiling. Compile fails at the > following point: > > CC drivers/net/pcnet32.o > drivers/net/pcnet32.c: In function `pcnet32_probe1': > drivers/net/pcnet32.c:1777: error: initializer element is not constant Known bug. Simply a forgotten closing } in an

Re: prelink does not work correctly on powerpc

2003-10-14 Thread Guido Guenther
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 11:45:32PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 23:13, Andrés Roldán wrote: > > > > R_PPC_REL24 relocation can show only in non-pic shared libraries on PPC, > > which is a bad idea on all platforms (some don't allow it at all even). > > Indeed. This was my f

Re: XFree86 UseFBDev & 2.6.0-test7-benh

2003-10-14 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Wesley Morgan wrote: > using 2.6.0-test2 (stock w/ Debian patches). The framebuffer is working > because I am seeing the bootlogo on startup and video is working > quickly enough to make me think it is *very* unlikely that the OF > framebuffer is being used. However, when I

st15150n (4GB FAST SCSI hard disk) problems on an 8500

2003-10-14 Thread dylan
few days ago tried installing woody onto an 8500. found out that there was some bad ram, so i tried the same HD in a different 8500 with NEW RAM (256MB). install went just fine, however, the kernel would report SCSI disk errors at random intervals (often when booting) i was able to get the ba

Re: XFree86 UseFBDev & 2.6.0-test7-benh

2003-10-14 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 09:44:09PM -0600, Wesley Morgan wrote: > I just rsync'ed the latest linux-2.5-benh from the > theorie.physik.uni-muenchen.de server today, and XFree86 seems to be > unable to find the framebuffer device when I boot w/ it. I have > /dev/fb/0 and /dev/fb/1 (using devfs; /de

Re: quik kernel size limit

2003-10-14 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 10:34:51PM +0200, Mich Lanners wrote: > Hi all, > > Recently it was discussed here whether quik has a limit on kernel size. > > Well, while playing with 2.6 kernels I found out: yes, quik _does_ have > a limit on kernel size. It is exactly 3981312 bytes. In fact, quik Yep

Re: quik kernel size limit

2003-10-14 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 22:34, Mich Lanners wrote: > Hi all, > > Recently it was discussed here whether quik has a limit on kernel size. > > Well, while playing with 2.6 kernels I found out: yes, quik _does_ have > a limit on kernel size. It is exactly 3981312 bytes. In fact, quik > allocates a fix

Re: error while compiling 2.6

2003-10-14 Thread Uwe Steinmann
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 06:36:38AM -0400, Nirmal Govind wrote: > > >The copy at rsync.theorie.physik.uni-muenchen.de misses at least numa.h > >Try 'source.mvista.com::linuxppc-2.5-benh' instead. > > > > Uwe > > > > Thanks Uwe.. I read on this list that the copy at the mvista mirror was > test2 .