Re: gcc3

2002-08-01 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 07:37:25PM -0400, Mike Furr wrote: > On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 10:43, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > That's not correct. It can handle hand-written Altivec code but it > > will not produce it automatically. > speaking of this... I been playing around with the vector enabled ops i

Re: gcc3

2002-08-01 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 07:37:25PM -0400, Mike Furr wrote: > On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 10:43, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > That's not correct. It can handle hand-written Altivec code but it > > will not produce it automatically. > speaking of this... I been playing around with the vector enabled ops i

Re: [The other way] Re: Debian network installation on IBM RS/6000 44P-170 (POWER3) - HOWTO

2002-08-01 Thread Chris Tillman
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 04:28:45PM -0400, German Poo Caaman~o wrote: > El mi?, 31-07-2002 a las 17:31, Rolf Brudeseth escribi?: > > This HOWTO explains how to perform a network install of Debian 3.0 (Woody) > > on an IBM RS/6000 44P-170 workstation. > > [...] I'll work on incorporating Rolf's HOWT

Re: Bug#155095: libmm11 1.1.3-7 broken on PowerPC

2002-08-01 Thread Mark Brown
On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 07:14 PM, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: The only thing that I can think of is that there is or was a toolchain bug on the powerpc that built the last libmm debs (and the libmm12 deb). If you built them, what versions of the toolchain packages are you running?

Re: Bug#155095: libmm11 1.1.3-7 broken on PowerPC

2002-08-01 Thread Mark Brown
On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 06:43 PM, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: I'm a bit tied up with other work now, but I'll see if I can find out what path has assigned to it. I wouldn't worry about it so much if the problem goes away with MMFILE - I do have an upload forcing the shm type to th

Re: gcc3

2002-08-01 Thread Mike Furr
On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 10:43, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > That's not correct. It can handle hand-written Altivec code but it > will not produce it automatically. speaking of this... I been playing around with the vector enabled ops in os X and just tried them out in linux, but no dice. Are any of t

Re: PCI bus speed on OldWorld PCI macs

2002-08-01 Thread Michael Hackett
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:50:41 -0400 (EDT) "Albert D. Cahalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Hackett writes: > > No, because you can't change the PCI clock. > > Do you know this specifically for his hardware? Remember that > it is 100% allowed to run PCI at less than 33 MHz, and that > this i

Re: KDE 3.0.2 problem

2002-08-01 Thread Jesus Climent
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 06:18:33PM +0200, Egidio Corsini wrote: > Reading this mail I'm lead to suppose someone has compiled kde 3.0.2 on ppc? > Can someone write me the address of any site sharing these debs? I did not compile the debs. I used garnome, which has support for kde 3.0.2 and I update

Re: KDE 3.0.2 problem

2002-08-01 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 22:26, Jack Howarth wrote: > You can simply download the stock tarballs for kde 3.0.2 from > the ftp.kde.org web site and build them. They all contain debian > subdirs. The core set have fully updated debian directories. Some > of the optional packages may have a slightly

Re: PCI bus speed on OldWorld PCI macs

2002-08-01 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Michael Hackett writes: > Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 100Mbps Ethernet = approx. 10-12 MB/s. PCI bandwidth is 132 MB/s (or > 80-90 MB/s in practice, I've read here recently). Plenty of headroom. I > doubt such a card would even get much in the way of other PCI traffic. ... > As Ben said, it

Re: Can't boot 3.0 (woody) on a PowerMac 6500

2002-08-01 Thread jhart
Thanks very much for the help. I don't know how I missed it. The install doc does mention BootX. I had to search on the CD to find linux.bin. The doc explains only how to download it. Once I found it, I got booted just fine. On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 09:27 PM, Chris Tillman wrote: As F

[The other way] Re: Debian network installation on IBM RS/6000 44P-170 (POWER3) - HOWTO

2002-08-01 Thread German Poo Caaman~o
El mié, 31-07-2002 a las 17:31, Rolf Brudeseth escribió: > This HOWTO explains how to perform a network install of Debian 3.0 (Woody) > on an IBM RS/6000 44P-170 workstation. > [...] > Create initial ramdisk image (zImage.initrd) > > > I just happen to

Re: KDE 3.0.2 problem

2002-08-01 Thread Jack Howarth
egidio, You can simply download the stock tarballs for kde 3.0.2 from the ftp.kde.org web site and build them. They all contain debian subdirs. The core set have fully updated debian directories. Some of the optional packages may have a slightly older debian directory that potentially could nee

Re: PCI bus speed on OldWorld PCI macs

2002-08-01 Thread Michael Hackett
On Thu, 01 Aug 2002 13:50:07 -0500 Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pardon my ignorance but in a conversation a while ago someone asked > this listserve if upgrading to 100mbs ethernet on an older PCI > powermac lab would be worth it to improve terminal performance. > > Most people seemed to sa

Re: PCI bus speed on OldWorld PCI macs

2002-08-01 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Chris writes: > Pardon my ignorance but in a conversation a while ago someone asked this > listserve if upgrading to 100mbs ethernet on an older PCI powermac lab would > be > worth it to improve terminal performance. > > Most people seemed to say 'NO' because of the limits of the PCI bus. 100 Mb

Re: PCI bus speed on OldWorld PCI macs

2002-08-01 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
>-what is the speed of the PCI bus on an older powermac? (is is 50% bus >speed?) It should be normal 33Mhz >-If I clocked up my PowerMac 7300/180 (45mhz bus) to 175 to 200 mhz on a >50mhz+ >bus would I be getting a faster PCI bus as well? I don't know if the PCI clock is derived from the bus cl

Re: PCI bus speed on OldWorld PCI macs

2002-08-01 Thread Angela Kahealani
I don't know for the entire product line, but can give one datapoint: A Beige G3 MiniTower is an OldWorld PCI bus PowerMac. 266MHz CPU 133MHz L2 Cache (Backside) 066MHz System Bus (PCI) at 64bits wide -- Copyright 2002 Angela Kahealani. All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice, UCC 1-207. All informa

Re: Bug#155095: libmm11 1.1.3-7 broken on PowerPC

2002-08-01 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
Great :-) After running a few more tests... It appears that this only happens if the first argument to mm_create() is 0, which should tell it to allocate the largest possible block-o-mem, according to the docs. I added a printf to make sure that the size it wanted to create was reasonable and b

PCI bus speed on OldWorld PCI macs

2002-08-01 Thread Chris
Greetings Debian Guru's, Pardon my ignorance but in a conversation a while ago someone asked this listserve if upgrading to 100mbs ethernet on an older PCI powermac lab would be worth it to improve terminal performance. Most people seemed to say 'NO' because of the limits of the PCI bus. I know

Re: Bug#155095: libmm11 1.1.3-7 broken on PowerPC

2002-08-01 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Mark Brown wrote: > Adding diagnostics to php4 so it'd actually say what went wrong (MM > provides mm_error() giving a text-form error) might be helpful. Here's the error returned by mm_error() when mm_create() fails: mm:core: failed to acquire shared memory segment

Re: KDE 3.0.2 problem

2002-08-01 Thread Egidio Corsini
Reading this mail I'm lead to suppose someone has compiled kde 3.0.2 on ppc? Can someone write me the address of any site sharing these debs? Thank you. egidio On 11:58, lunedì 8 luglio 2002, Jesus Climent wrote: > Installing kde 3.0.2 with garnome 0.12.2 I get the following problem: > > configu

Re: Bug#153948: Need help with afio on powerpc

2002-08-01 Thread Koen Holtman
Hi Dirk, Yes, if you want to release -6 into unstable with these makefile changes, I am OK with that. Cheers, Koen. On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > > > 6) I agree completely with Stephen's conclusions that there may be > >more endianness bugs lurking, so in the short ter

Re: Bug#155095: libmm11 1.1.3-7 broken on PowerPC

2002-08-01 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 11:43:23AM -0400, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: > Good idea. MMFILE is probably the safest, although I'm still puzzled as > to why IPCSHM seems to be so flaky. > It proved one thing: that compiling against libmm12 didn't make a > difference :-P I still get the same prob

Re: Weird X colours on Power Mac 7200

2002-08-01 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 17:15, Adrian Finn wrote: > > I have a Power Mac 7200, with an extra 1MB VRAM to make a total of 2MB. I > have installed Debian 3.0 with few issues other than strange colour problems > in X. Colours in jpeg images and other graphics appear very 'wrong', a bit > psychedelic! I

Re: Bug#155095: libmm11 1.1.3-7 broken on PowerPC

2002-08-01 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Mark Brown wrote: > I'm going to rebuild forcing shm to MMFILE anyway since it'll avoid > problems with the shm method randomly changing depending on which buildd > it gets built on. Good idea. MMFILE is probably the safest, although I'm still puzzled as to why IPCSHM seems

Re: Debian network installation on IBM RS/6000 44P-170 (POWER3) - HOWTO

2002-08-01 Thread Rolf Brudeseth
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 04:31:47PM -0500, Rolf Brudeseth wrote: > > > > I would have saved a few key strokes during the install if I had modified > > the config file to enable serial port console. > > It appears that it is enabled in the config file: > > ~snip > > # > > # Character devices > > #

Re: Bug#155095: libmm11 1.1.3-7 broken on PowerPC

2002-08-01 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 11:07:02AM -0400, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: > I just posted a follow-up to that bug report, complete with some > experimentation results. To summarise, either double your shmmax or > recompile libmm11 with --with-shm=MMFILE. Looks like there's a bug > somewhere WRT I

Weird X colours on Power Mac 7200

2002-08-01 Thread Adrian Finn
Hello I have a Power Mac 7200, with an extra 1MB VRAM to make a total of 2MB. I have installed Debian 3.0 with few issues other than strange colour problems in X. Colours in jpeg images and other graphics appear very 'wrong', a bit psychedelic! I thought it could be my small VRAM but 2MB should be

Re: Bug#155095: libmm11 1.1.3-7 broken on PowerPC

2002-08-01 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Mark Brown wrote: > Nothing. PHP keeps on randomly breaking, even with only rebuilds rather > than code changes for the shared library - the same thing happened > between -4 and -6 on alpha with no code changes involved. > > There's a potential issue with the choice of share

Re: Bug#153948: Need help with afio on powerpc

2002-08-01 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
> 6) I agree completely with Stephen's conclusions that there may be >more endianness bugs lurking, so in the short term, I recommend to >Dirk that any afio release on debian that pretends to be stable >should omit the -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE options >in the powe

Re: Bug#153948: Need help with afio on powerpc

2002-08-01 Thread Koen Holtman
Hi all, I had to make a big diagram of the thread in order to understand everything. Now I want to summarise where we are, as far as I can determine, and then add some new points. 0) linux 64 bit file support is still a bit of a mess, see the afio history file. 1) in Debian afio 2.4.7-3. Dir

Re: Bug#153948: Need help with afio on powerpc

2002-08-01 Thread Stephen van Egmond
Dirk Eddelbuettel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Me neither. I think what we need at this point is to short-circuit > something between Dieter, Stephen and you. Stephen has been > working hard to wrestle this bug down, but it keeps popping up on > Dieter's machine. I just noticed that this bu

Re: Bug#153948: Need help with afio on powerpc

2002-08-01 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 15:00, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > > > BTW I do not have access to a powerpc system. > > Me neither. Yes, you do. It's called voltaire.debian.org. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, F

Re: Bug#155095: libmm11 1.1.3-7 broken on PowerPC

2002-08-01 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 02:48:34PM +0200, Rubin wrote: > I've seen this workaround being tried on the alpha platform but as far > as I can see this does not work for powerpc. What changed between > 1.1.3-6 and 1.1.3-7 that breaks php in this case? Maybe a /usr/doc/libmm Nothing. PHP keeps on

Re: Bug#153948: Need help with afio on powerpc

2002-08-01 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Hi Koen, Good to know you're back. > Just got back from a vacation without e-mail. I've been reading over > the powerpc thread but it will take me a bit to say something > intelligent... > > BTW I do not have access to a powerpc system. Me neither. I think what we need at this point is to sh

Re: Bug#155095: libmm11 1.1.3-7 broken on PowerPC

2002-08-01 Thread Rubin
Hi, On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 02:01 PM, Mark Brown wrote: reassign 155095 php4 tag 155095 + help merge 155095 136261 thanks On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 01:34:25PM +0200, Rubin wrote: After a quick apt-get update / apt-get upgrade in the unstable tree, libmm11 got updated from 1.1.3-6 to 1.

Re: Bug#153948: Need help with afio on powerpc

2002-08-01 Thread Koen Holtman
Hi all, Just got back from a vacation without e-mail. I've been reading over the powerpc thread but it will take me a bit to say something intelligent... BTW I do not have access to a powerpc system. Cheers, Koen. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Dieter Schuster wrote: > Tach auch! > > Am Son, den 2

Re: New - Newbie apt-get question

2002-08-01 Thread Ole-Egil Hvitmyren
deFreese, Barry wrote: O.K. so I'm trying to keep this thread alive :-). When I run apt-get install kde, I keep getting messages that it fails to pull down some files and then it says: E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? I have run apt-get upd