Re: X crash on login

2001-10-16 Thread Derrik Pates
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Russell Hires wrote: > After my nightly "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade," I reboot this > morning to discover that X crashes when I attempt to login through kdm. > After about the third crash, I get dropped to a shell, where I can login > to the command line, and type

Re: GConf/galeon problems solve

2001-10-16 Thread Jason E. Stewart
"Jeffrey W. Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 16 Oct 2001, Jason E. Stewart wrote: > > > I don't know about galeon, but mozilla is pretty up-to-date in: > > > > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib > > non-free > > > > I've just built galeon from source a

X crash on login

2001-10-16 Thread Russell Hires
Hello every, After my nightly "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade," I reboot this morning to discover that X crashes when I attempt to login through kdm. After about the third crash, I get dropped to a shell, where I can login to the command line, and type "startx," but that crashes, too. I do

Re: I'm one step away from Airport

2001-10-16 Thread Aaron Schrab
At 17:46 -0400 16 Oct 2001, Jesse David Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All I did was edit the /etc/network/interfaces > I don't know how to tell it the essid or whatnot for the iwconfig here... You can't currently with a normal setup. But, check out Bug#113128. -- Aaron Schrab [EMAIL

Re: request for help to make powerpc custom boot disks

2001-10-16 Thread Chris Tillman
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 08:41:13PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 12:56:18AM -0400, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: > > An aborted attempt to switch? It makes no sense to even have > > the OpenFirmware code if it isn't used. > > Oh, it's used all right. Reading the disk is one

Re: request for help to make powerpc custom boot disks

2001-10-16 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 12:56:18AM -0400, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: > An aborted attempt to switch? It makes no sense to even have > the OpenFirmware code if it isn't used. Oh, it's used all right. Reading the disk is one of those things it just isn't used for, though. They did a much better job

badblocks

2001-10-16 Thread Christoph Bohle
The badblocks command found 3 badblocks at the very end of an ext2 partition on my ibook2. e2fsck could not fix them saying something like "out of reach. ignoring". I would like to know if this is a serious problem with my harddisk or rather a problem with the powerpc ext2 support or with the badb

Re: partitioning without interacting ?

2001-10-16 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 09:21:42AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I noticed libfdisk does not have a fdisk_delete_partition > command, only fdisk_add_partition. libfdisk isn't meant to edit partition tables, only provide transparent access to them for dbootstrap. > FAI, depends on sfdisk which

Re: Partition Limit?

2001-10-16 Thread Ethan Benson
there is no partition limit except on scsi devices which are limited to 15. yaboot however has an internal limit of 32, it probably won't see any past that. On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 10:38:06AM -0400, Brian Victor wrote: > I'm trying to triple boot (Mac 9/X, Debian) on my new 30 gig drive. OS > X

Re: GConf/galeon problems solve

2001-10-16 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On 16 Oct 2001, Jason E. Stewart wrote: > I don't know about galeon, but mozilla is pretty up-to-date in: > > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib > non-free > > I've just built galeon from source and installed it in /usr/local Galeon and Mozilla are both the

Re: GConf/galeon problems solve

2001-10-16 Thread Jason E. Stewart
"Blake Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > While we're on the subject > > Is there a good APT source to get galeon and mozilla or am > I on my own? They're in x86/unstable but I didn't see them right > away in powerpc/unstable. > > I'm currently *lame* and am using the > > "http://http

Re: partitioning without interacting ?

2001-10-16 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2001-10-16 at 18:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > FAI, depends on sfdisk which does not work on powerpc, I thought the discussion after Thomas' talk in Bordeaux made clear that parted is the way to go for FAI, why doesn't it use that yet? -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU

Re: GConf/galeon problems solve

2001-10-16 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2001-10-16 at 23:11, Blake Carlson wrote: > Is there a good APT source to get galeon and mozilla or am > I on my own? They're in x86/unstable but I didn't see them right > away in powerpc/unstable. mozilla and galeon are in non-US. > Jason E. Stewart wrote: > > > In case it's useful t

Configuring a "meta" key on laptop...

2001-10-16 Thread Jesse David Andrews
This may completely wrong, but I am under the impression that you can setup a key to be the "meta" key. Can I do the following (if so any links to docs I should read to figure out how): Setup keyboard as follows: Caps Lock -> Ctrl Alt (option) -> Alt Control Key -> ctrl (or maybe caps lock) App

netscape on Potato

2001-10-16 Thread Paul F. Pearson
I gave up on Mozilla. I downloaded it from the MOzilla web stie, and it also wouldn't use the Automatically COnfigured internet proxy we're required to use at work. I figured I'd try to get Netscape 4.7x, since that's what works on all of our other platforms (Mac, Window$). However, when i use dsel

Re: Re: I'm one step away from Airport

2001-10-16 Thread Jesse David Andrews
All I did was edit the /etc/network/interfaces added: auto eth1 iface eth1 inet dhcp You can have: auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 10.0.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 10.0.1.1 You probably want to remove (comment out) the line: auto eth0 I don't know how to t

iBook2: Timekeeping and keyboard

2001-10-16 Thread Mats Aigner
Hello! I just installed 2.2r3 on my iBook2, following the Debian manual closely. Everything runs smoothly, even triple booting works fine! But then, I haven't installed much more than the base system and run "tasksel -s", ie no X or anything. Even so, I have a few questions: The Linux system

Re: Advice on a iBook ...

2001-10-16 Thread Michel Lanners
On 16 Oct, this message from Michael Schmitz echoed through cyberspace: >> As for the iBook2, I would be surprised if it couldn't play DVDs. > > Sure it can - with the hardware decoder used (assuming it has such a > beast; the Lombard does). No dedicated hardware, just hardware assistance from t

Re: trouble installing on a mac

2001-10-16 Thread Michael D. Crawford
I was finally able to install. Despite my observation that I didn't see lights blinking on my modem, it worked to use /dev/ttyS0. On some web page somewhere or other I found a statement to the effect that the modem port on older macs and the built-in modem on newer macs is /dev/ttyS1, but this

Re: Advice on a iBook ...

2001-10-16 Thread Michel Lanners
On 16 Oct, this message from Rogério Brito echoed through cyberspace: > For instance, some time ago I asked what x86 (mobile) > processor the iBook2's could be compared to and I received all > answers from a Celeron 300 to a Pentium III 800. :-/ What is > a realistic figure

Re: GConf/galeon problems solve

2001-10-16 Thread Blake Carlson
While we're on the subject Is there a good APT source to get galeon and mozilla or am I on my own? They're in x86/unstable but I didn't see them right away in powerpc/unstable. I'm currently *lame* and am using the "http://http.us.debian.org/debian";'ish lines in my sources.list. Is the

Re: Has anyone a working XF86Config-4 for ibook2 with dri enabled?

2001-10-16 Thread Blake Carlson
I think the driver you need is "r128" and not "ati". This is what I have my driver section for TiBook: Section "Device" Identifier "ATI Rage 128 M3 (Mobility)" #Option "NoAccel" #Option "SWcursor" #Option "HWcursor" #Option

Re: I'm one step away from Airport

2001-10-16 Thread Orion Buckminster Montoya
This worked! When I get it down to a system I'll post here what exactly I did, for other cluebots like me. Basically, though, xueexueg:/home/o# ifconfig eth1 10.0.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 xueexueg:/home/o# route add default gw 10.0.1.1 dev eth1 xueexueg:/home/o# iwconfig eth1 essid ARTFL xueexue

Has anyone a working XF86Config-4 for ibook2 with dri enabled?

2001-10-16 Thread Thorsten Nicklaus
Hi, after a new install and working sound, thank's ben. I want the full XFree power. Without dri enabled X is working. But with it I fail. No sreens found is the error. Can anybody mail me a right config, please. My is in the mail. -- # XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generat

GConf/galeon problems solve

2001-10-16 Thread Jason E. Stewart
Hey All, In case it's useful to others, there is an email describing a solution for getting galeon working if you get the dreaded: 'Cannot find a schema for Galeon preferences. Check your gconf setup, look at Galeon FAQ for more info. ' problem. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2001/debia

Re: Advice on a iBook ... [OT - TiBook recommendation because you asked for it]

2001-10-16 Thread Michel Lanners
On 15 Oct, this message from Derrik Pates echoed through cyberspace: > On 16 Oct 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote: > >> Even with Linux, the choice isn't so hard, with a growing amount of >> software supporting Altivec. In particular, watching DVDs is certainly >> much more of a pleasure on a TiBook now

Re: partitioning without interacting ?

2001-10-16 Thread pjordan
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 08:55:38PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > I noticed libfdisk does not have a fdisk_delete_partition > > command, only fdisk_add_partition. > > For all I know libfdisk wasn't exactly designed to support partition table > editors, rather give busybox a simple API to access

Re: Advice on a iBook ...

2001-10-16 Thread Rick Haines
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 09:03:33AM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Rick Haines wrote: > > > I thought about all this before purchasing my iBook2 and came down to a > > couple deciding factors: > > > > 1. The TiBook is bigger than what I wanted > > 2. The TiBook has a fan th

Re: TiBook Dual Display

2001-10-16 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > What are the issues preventing a Dual Head X configuration on a TiBook > > (1st generation, i.e., Rage128 Mobility). > > Mainly that, from what I understand, the 2-heads-off-one-CRTC model that > dual-head with notebooks using the Rage Mobility family chips use is > mostly undocumented. I can o

Re: partitioning without interacting ?

2001-10-16 Thread Michael Schmitz
> I noticed libfdisk does not have a fdisk_delete_partition > command, only fdisk_add_partition. For all I know libfdisk wasn't exactly designed to support partition table editors, rather give busybox a simple API to access partition info. I might have that wrong though; did you try to add fdisk_d

Re: TiBook Dual Display

2001-10-16 Thread Michael Schmitz
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Gregory P. Keeney wrote: > What are the issues preventing a Dual Head X configuration on a TiBook > (1st generation, i.e., Rage128 Mobility). Lack of developer manpower (did you just volunteer to do it?). The technical specs are available to XFree members, the kernel infrastru

partitioning without interacting ?

2001-10-16 Thread pjordan
I noticed libfdisk does not have a fdisk_delete_partition command, only fdisk_add_partition. FAI, depends on sfdisk which does not work on powerpc, does anyone know how I can automate repartitioning of a powerpc machine. I have half the disk allocated to me in one bnig partition I would like to

Re: TiBook Dual Display

2001-10-16 Thread Derrik Pates
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Gregory P. Keeney wrote: > What are the issues preventing a Dual Head X configuration on a TiBook > (1st generation, i.e., Rage128 Mobility). Mainly that, from what I understand, the 2-heads-off-one-CRTC model that dual-head with notebooks using the Rage Mobility family chips

Author of tas3001a.c

2001-10-16 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
Who is the author of the tas3001a.c driver that I included in my kernel recently ? I want to add proper copyright notice ;) Ben.

Re: Unidentified subject!

2001-10-16 Thread Media 100
www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/install Bruno BEAUFILS wrote: > One of my student would like to install Linux on his Mac. > > We tried to install a Mandrake and finally succeed using a Yellow dog linux > kernel, BootX, and Mandrake CD but once the system is installed we get trouble > using

TiBook Dual Display

2001-10-16 Thread Gregory P. Keeney
I realize this has been brought up on this list before, but I am curious if there have been any new developments since the last time this was discussed. What are the issues preventing a Dual Head X configuration on a TiBook (1st generation, i.e., Rage128 Mobility). I recall some discussion that m

Re: Unidentified subject!

2001-10-16 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Bruno BEAUFILS wrote: > > > One of my student would like to install Linux on his Mac. > > We tried to install a Mandrake and finally succeed using a Yellow dog linux > kernel, BootX, and Mandrake CD but once the system is installed we get trouble > using X. It seems it uses Xp

Unidentified subject!

2001-10-16 Thread Bruno BEAUFILS
One of my student would like to install Linux on his Mac. We tried to install a Mandrake and finally succeed using a Yellow dog linux kernel, BootX, and Mandrake CD but once the system is installed we get trouble using X. It seems it uses Xpmac and get trouble with our french keyboard. So I dec

Re: Advice on a iBook ...

2001-10-16 Thread Blake Carlson
I just checked apple.com and words cannot describe how I feel right now since I just bought my TiBook last week. I am sooo disappointed, still like my TiBook, but I feel cheated. Do you know when these will actually be available? Sure - you can buy one now but when will you get it? -- Blake

Re: Advice on a iBook ...

2001-10-16 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Rick Haines wrote: > I thought about all this before purchasing my iBook2 and came down to a > couple deciding factors: > > 1. The TiBook is bigger than what I wanted > 2. The TiBook has a fan that makes it louder than the iBook2 The fan on my titanium has come on exactly o

Re: Advice on a iBook ...

2001-10-16 Thread Rick Haines
I thought about all this before purchasing my iBook2 and came down to a couple deciding factors: 1. The TiBook is bigger than what I wanted 2. The TiBook has a fan that makes it louder than the iBook2 (iBook2 would be silent if not for the HD/CDROM) 3. Eventually I can move some resiste

Re: Advice on a iBook ...

2001-10-16 Thread the Edward Blevins
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 08:24:59AM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > DVD playing works in MacOS 9, MacOS X, and Debian PPC on the titanium. > You can play DVDs with the iBook under MacOS 9/X. You can't play DVDs > with Linux on the iBook because the CPU power just isn't there, and the > various Lin

Re: Recompile cfs for stable

2001-10-16 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 10:42:10AM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > > In case voltaire doesn't cover it, I have a stable chroot set up and ready > > > to go. > > > > Voltaire's also got a stable chroot; at least for now, you can log in > > But is there a buildd running on that chroot? Nope. The

Re: Advice on a iBook ...

2001-10-16 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Blake Carlson wrote: > I've seen some good discussion about the G3 vs. G4 on this > thread, but you all are neglecting the rest of the system when > comparing the TiBook vs. iBook2. > > > TiBook as 100MHz bus vs. 66MHz in iBook2. This is a *big* deal. > Also, the TiBook has l

how to boot 43p-150 with gxt2000p

2001-10-16 Thread G. Bürger
Hi, I have tried the current boot disks of woody/powerpc to install debian on a IBM 43p-150 machine, using ok> boot floppy:,\linux root=/dev/fd0 init_ramdisk=1 fake_initrd at the openfirmware prompt. Without success: It hangs after the openfirmware says 'booting'. When replacing the kernel with

Re: Advice on a iBook ...

2001-10-16 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, [iso-8859-1] Rogério Brito wrote: > But I still have questions regarding these notebooks with > Linux. [...] > Battery life is more of a concern than processing power for me > and the ads from Apple lead me to think that this may be a > point wh

Re: Lombard: Woody: dpkg install failure

2001-10-16 Thread Adam Di Carlo
This is a known problem in that base dependancies changed. It is already fixed in debootstrap, and the next boot-floppies will also fix this. To workaround, add libpcap0 to the base line in the woody script. -- ...Adam Di Carlo..<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...http://www.onshored.com/>

Partition Limit?

2001-10-16 Thread Brian Victor
I'm trying to triple boot (Mac 9/X, Debian) on my new 30 gig drive. OS X put a bunch of small partitions on the drive, bumping my linux partitions to numbers 14, 15, and 16. Before OS X did so, there were 4 more gigs of free space after the linux partitions. mac-fdisk no longer shows this space.

Re: Advice on a iBook ...

2001-10-16 Thread Blake Carlson
I've seen some good discussion about the G3 vs. G4 on this thread, but you all are neglecting the rest of the system when comparing the TiBook vs. iBook2. TiBook as 100MHz bus vs. 66MHz in iBook2. This is a *big* deal. Also, the TiBook has large 1MB cache running at 200MHz vs. iBook2's 256KB ca

Re: Advice on a iBook ...

2001-10-16 Thread Michael Schmitz
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Andrew Sharp wrote: > > > For instance, some time ago I asked what x86 (mobile) > > > processor the iBook2's could be compared to and I received all > > > answers from a Celeron 300 to a Pentium III 800. :-/ What is > > > a realistic figure? > > Is this

Re: Lombard: Woody: dpkg install failure

2001-10-16 Thread Ethan Benson
try replacing your root.bin with: http://master.penguinppc.org/~eb/root.bin On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 12:01:36PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > Thanks to everyone, Ethan especially, in getting me to the install > phase! > > I'm trying to install woody on a Lombard powermac laptop. I'm install

Re: Advice on a iBook ...

2001-10-16 Thread Andrew Sharp
Michael Schmitz wrote: > > > For instance, some time ago I asked what x86 (mobile) > > processor the iBook2's could be compared to and I received all > > answers from a Celeron 300 to a Pentium III 800. :-/ What is > > a realistic figure? Is this a troll? > Irrelevant. An

Re: I'm one step away from Airport

2001-10-16 Thread Blake Carlson
I haven't been following this thread too closely, but here's how I got my airport to work (note - I'm using dummy IP addresses but your personal network should be in the range 192.168.XXX.XXX): % ifconfig -l do you see eth0 and eth1? You should :) % ifconfig eth0 down % ifconfig eth1 192.168

Re: Install: force Lombard to use yaboot, not quik

2001-10-16 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 04:32:22AM -0700, Andrew Sharp wrote: > > Are you saying this site is over taxed ... or something else? im saying it sucks, why it sucks i don't know nor care. its slow, it drops connections regularly, it hangs, its outdated half the time, etc etc etc. -- Ethan Benson

Re: Linux on RS/6000 E20

2001-10-16 Thread Shawn D'Alimonte
On Tuesday 16 October 2001 04:44, Benny Siegert wrote: > Right now I have a serial console working. I have used the "current" > PReP boot disks from people.debian.org/~aph/. When switching on the > machine, Linux/PPC loads and shows a command line. After pressing > enter, the kernel is loaded. But

Re: Lombard: Woody: dpkg install failure

2001-10-16 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 12:01:36PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > Thanks to everyone, Ethan especially, in getting me to the install > phase! > > I'm trying to install woody on a Lombard powermac laptop. I'm installing > woody because woody correctly tries to install yaboot, whereas potato >

Re: Install: force Lombard to use yaboot, not quik

2001-10-16 Thread Andrew Sharp
Ethan Benson wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 11:53:30PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > > Hi Ethan > > > > Thanks for all your time so far. > > > > For anyone else who is coming in on this thread, I'm trying to install > > Debian on a Lombard. The potato installers set quik as the boot syst

Re: pppdifficulties

2001-10-16 Thread Mike Missett
Rogerio and MIchel, Thanks for your answers. There was a post on user by someone who found things routed to eth0 when they needed to be going to ttyS0, which is what got me thinking about default route. I will try Rogerio's answer and if still lost try the user list. Also, in reference to Rogeri

Re: Advice on a iBook ...

2001-10-16 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2001-10-16 at 11:53, Rogério Brito wrote: > My most advanced projects as a user are watching DivX movies, > encoding MP3s with lame and playing files with xmms. I'd like > to take the lowest (i.e., cheapest) processor that could make > me watch the DivX movies witho

Re: Advice on a iBook ...

2001-10-16 Thread Michael Schmitz
> For instance, some time ago I asked what x86 (mobile) > processor the iBook2's could be compared to and I received all > answers from a Celeron 300 to a Pentium III 800. :-/ What is > a realistic figure? Irrelevant. Any figure someone could come up with is pretty irreleva

Lombard: Woody: dpkg install failure

2001-10-16 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
Thanks to everyone, Ethan especially, in getting me to the install phase! I'm trying to install woody on a Lombard powermac laptop. I'm installing woody because woody correctly tries to install yaboot, whereas potato does not. I'm booting from hd, then doing a kernel install over NFS (laziness -

Re: pppdifficulties

2001-10-16 Thread Rogério Brito
On Oct 15 2001, mmissett wrote: > Thanks for the reply, I was beginning to feel ignored. And thinking > of the other lists. In any event, yes, I can ping the PPP peer > (numerically), but not anybody else. I have been wondering about > default route, but I don't know what to do about it.

Re: I'm one step away from Airport

2001-10-16 Thread Rogério Brito
On Oct 15 2001, Orion Buckminster Montoya wrote: > Yep, sure did: good to know. But what can I do? I tried > route add -net 10.0.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth1 > (based on the router and netmask from a Mac OS Mac that uses the UFO) > but it told me the netmask didn't match the router.

Re: Advice on a iBook ...

2001-10-16 Thread Rogério Brito
On Oct 16 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Even with Linux, the choice isn't so hard, with a growing amount of > software supporting Altivec. In particular, watching DVDs is > certainly much more of a pleasure on a TiBook now than it will > probably ever be on a G3 Notebook. Oh, I wasn't the o

Re: keymap setup for TiBook

2001-10-16 Thread Rogério Brito
On Oct 15 2001, Blake L. Carlson wrote: > Never mind on the keymap since I just figured that out ... duh, I > had the wrong keyboard layout defined. I think I know what I need to > do for the mouse buttons but if someone wants to bless me with your > experience, please do so! Your kernel m

Re: hosed keymap - HELP

2001-10-16 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2001-10-16 at 04:55, Paul Kimber wrote: > I just upgraded my kernel to 2.2.19 and while running "dpkg- > reconfigure console-data" the machine froze, leaving me with a keymap > that doesnt work with either kernel. > Any suggestions on how to get back into this machine? > (5500/225, 2.2r3,

Re: pppdifficulties

2001-10-16 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2001-10-16 at 02:54, mmissett wrote: > I can ping the PPP peer (numerically), but not anybody else. I have > been wondering about default route, but I don't know what to do about it. Configure pppd to set it, if the 'default' option doesn't work then please read up some documentation.

Linux on RS/6000 E20

2001-10-16 Thread Benny Siegert
Hi all! I want to install Debian GNU/Linux on an IBM RS/6000, model E20. The problem is that I don't have access to technical data about this machine. Oh, and the machine does not have a graphics card :-). Right now I have a serial console working. I have used the "current" PReP boot disks fr

Re: Recompile cfs for stable

2001-10-16 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > In case voltaire doesn't cover it, I have a stable chroot set up and ready > > to go. > > Voltaire's also got a stable chroot; at least for now, you can log in But is there a buildd running on that chroot? Michael

Re: request for help to make powerpc custom boot disks

2001-10-16 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 12:56:18AM -0400, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: > > You have forever destroyed my innocent faith in the beauty > of Apple hardware. Shame on you! :-( I now declare the > modern PC architecture to be a coherent and efficient design. > Even the A20 line and MBR are looking good