Re: Bug#758234: debian-policy: allow packages to depend on packages of lower priority

2014-08-16 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 06:07:00PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Hi Ansgar and everybody, > > there seems to be a consensus that the Policy should be updated, but there are > two non-compatible proposals. Hi, in my opinion this paragraph in policy is just fine and helps us to keep control over t

Bug#758234: debian-policy: allow packages to depend on packages of lower priority

2014-08-18 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 09:03:14AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Gerrit Pape writes: > > Hi, in my opinion this paragraph in policy is just fine > > I really don't agree. Policy currently implies that the maintainers of > packages control their priority settings in the a

Bug#758231: rsyslog: is priority important, depends on packages with priority extra

2014-08-18 Thread Gerrit Pape
unmerge 758231 retitle 758231 rsyslog: is priority important, depends on packages with priority extra reassign 758231 rsyslog 8.2.2-3 severity 758231 serious retitle 758233 cron: is priority important, depends on package with priority extra reassign 758233 cron 3.0pl1-124.2 severity 758233 seriou

Bug#758234: [PATCH] Remove priority "extra", make all corresponding packages priority "optional"

2014-08-23 Thread Gerrit Pape
retitle 758234 Remove priority "extra", make all corresponding packages priority "optional" quit Since discussion on this topic seems to have stopped, I suggest this patch to remove the priority "extra" for Debian packages. All packages that currently are of priority "extra" shall be changed to

Bug#758234: debian-policy: allow packages to depend on packages of lower priority

2014-08-25 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 03:17:14PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > As I understand it, your primary concern is around the decision-making > process for handling changes to priority (particularly increasing > priority). It's not necessarily the decision-making process. Actually I didn't look in detai

Bug#758234: [PATCH v2] Remove priority "extra", make all corresponding packages priority "optional"

2014-08-25 Thread Gerrit Pape
hall be done through ftpmaster's override file, which will cause lintian warnings for affected packages so that the maintainers can adapt the packages' control files gradually. --- On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 09:59:09PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On 23/08/14 17:54, Gerrit Pape wrote: > >

Bug#759260: [PATCH v2] Remove priority "extra", make all corresponding packages priority "optional"

2014-10-06 Thread Gerrit Pape
:02PM +0000, Gerrit Pape wrote: > All packages that currently are of priority "extra" shall be changed to > priority "optional" for the reasons outlined in message #35 to this > report > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=758234#35 > >

Re: Bug#391836: debian-policy: New virtual package: cron-daemon

2009-09-17 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:32:04PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > fcron doesn't appear to run cron.daily by default, and neither does bcron. > *Only* the cron package ships a crontab that runs /etc/cron.daily by > default; anacron also supports running cron.daily, but relies on cron itself > to tri

Re: Bug#391836: debian-policy: New virtual package: cron-daemon

2009-10-14 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 01:43:57PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I suspect that we need to document that packages may rely on @reboot, > @yearly, @monthly, @weekly, @daily, and @hourly, and also on the */2 > syntax. We also need to document that, contrary POSIX, files in > /etc/cron.d have seven fi

Re: Bug#191036: create /run for programs that run before /var is mounted

2003-05-01 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Thu, May 01, 2003 at 12:22:04AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > For my part, I find the whole resolv.conf concept flawed since > changing it does not affect running process, so I always use a proxy > DNS. Yes, I concur. Not that this is the solution to your current problem, but you might be int

Re: Bug#370471: use of "invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $?" in prerm scripts

2006-06-21 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 03:36:30PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > The policy manual says (9.3.2 Writing the scripts): > > The init.d scripts should ensure that they will behave sensibly > if invoked with start when the service is already running, or > with stop when it isn'

Re: Bug#370471: use of "invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $?" in prerm scripts

2006-06-26 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 09:36:37AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Gerrit Pape wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 03:36:30PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > > The policy manual says (9.3.2 Writing the scripts): > > > > > >

Re: Bug#370471: use of "invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $?" in prerm scripts

2006-06-27 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 08:42:06AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, Gerrit Pape wrote: > > Or better yet, instead of duplicating such code in each and every > > daemon, as already done for fork/exec, detach from terminal, cleanup > > filedescrip