Bug#804018: options to avoid service startup on package installation

2018-07-25 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 at 05:11:15 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > ISTM that in days gone by this would have been (should have been) a > wishlist item for invoke-rc.d. The interface was defined in > invoke-rc.d(8) and README.policy-rc.d.gz. ... > Nowadays, there is systemd too. I have no idea whether >

Bug#804018: options to avoid service startup on package installation

2018-07-25 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 10:18:22AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > policyrcd-script-zg2 is an adapter between the invoke-rc.d-defined API > (which says the policy-rc.d script must be in /usr/sbin) and what that > API should maybe have been all along (additionally looking for the script > in a config

Bug#804018: options to avoid service startup on package installation

2018-07-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Marc Haber writes ("Re: Bug#804018: options to avoid service startup on package installation"): > On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 10:18:22AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > > policyrcd-script-zg2 is an adapter between the invoke-rc.d-defined API > > (which says the policy-rc.d script must be in /usr/sbin)

Bug#904608: Support specifying upstream VCS location in debian/control

2018-07-25 Thread Iain Lane
Package: debian-policy Version: 4.1.5.0 Severity: normal Hi, Some tools, like git-buildpackage, can support merging an upstream's version history into Debian packaging repositories. This enables more rich usage of (D)VCS when packaging - for example `git blame' works properly. Currently there's

Bug#685746: Seeking seconds for a patch to deal with remaining issues in this old bug

2018-07-25 Thread Sean Whitton
control: tag -1 -patch Hello, On Mon 23 Jul 2018 at 08:09AM -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > It comes down to what "might not work" means. > > For example, "might reformat your hard drive" is an example of "might not > work". > > This might seem pedantic, but it really isn't: I've seen packagers

Processed: Re: Bug#685746: Seeking seconds for a patch to deal with remaining issues in this old bug

2018-07-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > tag -1 -patch Bug #685746 [debian-policy] debian-policy Consider clarifying the use of recommends Removed tag(s) patch. -- 685746: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=685746 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems

Bug#459427: Patch seeking seconds on changelog vs. NEWS handling

2018-07-25 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello gregor, On Mon 23 Jul 2018 at 01:40PM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: > Let me see if I got this right, and apply it to the typical pkg-perl > package: > > CPAN distributions usually contain no NEWS file, and do contain a > Changes/ChangeLog/... file which is "an upstream release notes file"

Bug#459427: Patch seeking seconds on changelog vs. NEWS handling

2018-07-25 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello Bill, On Mon 23 Jul 2018 at 12:29PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > The issue is that the recommendation does not include a rationale, and > it seems to me the rationale is based on an implicit definition of > changelog which is not communicated either (or more precisely, it is > based on th

Processed: Re: Bug#813471: Seeking seconds for patch to permit some network access to localhost

2018-07-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > tag -1 -patch +pending Bug #813471 [debian-policy] Permit some network access to the build host Removed tag(s) patch. Bug #813471 [debian-policy] Permit some network access to the build host Added tag(s) pending. -- 813471: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport

Bug#813471: Seeking seconds for patch to permit some network access to localhost

2018-07-25 Thread Sean Whitton
control: tag -1 -patch +pending Hello Paul, Ian, It looks like we have a clear consensus that my patch is fine, but while it might be that there is further loosening of the restriction on network access that should be done in addition to my patch, we do not know exactly what yet. So I'm applying

Processed: Re: Bug#904608: Support specifying upstream VCS location in debian/control

2018-07-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > tag -1 +moreinfo Bug #904608 [debian-policy] Support specifying upstream VCS location in debian/control Added tag(s) moreinfo. -- 904608: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=904608 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problem

Bug#904608: Support specifying upstream VCS location in debian/control

2018-07-25 Thread Sean Whitton
control: tag -1 +moreinfo Hello Iain, On Wed 25 Jul 2018 at 05:14PM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: > Some tools, like git-buildpackage, can support merging an upstream's > version history into Debian packaging repositories. This enables more > rich usage of (D)VCS when packaging - for example `git blam

Bug#904608: Support specifying upstream VCS location in debian/control

2018-07-25 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi, Sean Whitton wrote: > On Wed 25 Jul 2018 at 05:14PM +0100, Iain Lane wrote: >> Some tools, like git-buildpackage, can support merging an upstream's >> version history into Debian packaging repositories. This enables more >> rich usage of (D)VCS when packaging - for example `git blame' works >

Bug#459427: Patch seeking seconds on changelog vs. NEWS handling

2018-07-25 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi, Sean Whitton wrote: > On Mon 23 Jul 2018 at 01:40PM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: >> Let me see if I got this right, and apply it to the typical pkg-perl >> package: >> >> CPAN distributions usually contain no NEWS file, and do contain a >> Changes/ChangeLog/... file which is "an upstream rel

Bug#459427: Patch seeking seconds on changelog vs. NEWS handling

2018-07-25 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Wed 25 Jul 2018 at 07:01PM -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > I share gregor's discomfort: I don't think we've thought this through. I too want Policy to be as correct as possible, but this bug has been open for ten years and one thing upon which there is certainly consensus is that the c

Bug#459427: Patch seeking seconds on changelog vs. NEWS handling

2018-07-25 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Sean Whitton wrote: > On Wed 25 Jul 2018 at 07:01PM -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote: >> I share gregor's discomfort: I don't think we've thought this through. > > I too want Policy to be as correct as possible, but this bug has been > open for ten years and one thing upon which there is certainly con

Bug#904248: Add netbase to build-essential

2018-07-25 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi, Sean Whitton wrote: > Thank you for the discussion, Ian and Simon. Here is the beginnings of > a patch: > >> diff --git a/policy/ch-source.rst b/policy/ch-source.rst >> index 9e7d79c..f27226e 100644 >> --- a/policy/ch-source.rst >> +++ b/policy/ch-source.rst >> @@ -40,9 +40,15 @@ example, if

Bug#459427: Patch seeking seconds on changelog vs. NEWS handling

2018-07-25 Thread Sean Whitton
[if you were CCed on this e-mail: this was because you seconded a previous version of the patch which included a recommendation which I have now dropped, and I hope you'll second the revised patch, further down this e-mail] Hello Jonathan, On Wed 25 Jul 2018 at 08:57PM -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrot

Bug#459427: Patch seeking seconds on changelog vs. NEWS handling

2018-07-25 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 01:05:16PM +0800, Sean Whitton wrote: > diff --git a/policy/ch-docs.rst b/policy/ch-docs.rst > index 1de221f..e990f34 100644 > --- a/policy/ch-docs.rst > +++ b/policy/ch-docs.rst > @@ -255,32 +255,45 @@ files may be installed into ``/usr/share/doc/package``. > > .. _s-cha

Bug#904608: Support specifying upstream VCS location in debian/control

2018-07-25 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Wed 25 Jul 2018 at 06:20PM -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > I would have expected to find this information in debian/copyright. The > Source field there sometimes names an upstream VCS but isn't required to > do so; I'd be in favor of some tightening of the requirements in > copyright-f