Bug#758234: Bug#759260: [PATCH] Remove priority "extra", make all corresponding packages priority "optional"

2014-08-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Ansgar Burchardt writes: > Stuart Prescott writes: >>> I find Priority: extra useful for at least transitional packages, >>> detached debug symbols, and packages conflicting with packages of >>> priority >= important (or maybe >= standard) that will continue to do >>> so, say for example alterna

Bug#759316: Document the use of /etc/default for cron jobs

2014-08-26 Thread Tanguy Ortolo
Package: debian-policy Severity: wishlist -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello, For practical reasons, variables that are used to configure init scripts behaviour are placed in separate files in /etc/default, as documented in Policy §9.3.2. The same is often applied to cron job

Bug#758234: Bug#759260: [PATCH] Remove priority "extra", make all corresponding packages priority "optional"

2014-08-26 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Russ Allbery: > Could you say more about why you think conflicting packages having a > separate priority from optional is useful? When would people use that > priority information, and how? > Let's assume that I have a large multiuser Debian system. I don't want to be bothered by people requ

Bug#586186: marked as done (developers-reference: mention DD certificates in "Goodies for Developers" section)

2014-08-26 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Tue, 26 Aug 2014 09:38:43 -0700 with message-id <1409071123.4148.7.camel@chianamo> and subject line developers-reference: removal of membership benefits information has caused the Debian Bug report #586186, regarding developers-reference: mention DD certificates in "Goodies for

Bug#758234: Bug#759260: [PATCH] Remove priority "extra", make all corresponding packages priority "optional"

2014-08-26 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Russ Allbery writes: > Ansgar Burchardt writes: >> Stuart Prescott writes: >> Related to that: Given d-i/debootstrap are the main users, I think >> having d-i ignore the priority of library packages already[1] is an >> indication that allowing packages to depend on library packages with >> lower

Bug#759260: Bug#758234: Bug#759260: [PATCH] Remove priority "extra", make all corresponding packages priority "optional"

2014-08-26 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Russ Allbery writes: > Ansgar Burchardt writes: >> Stuart Prescott writes: I find Priority: extra useful for at least transitional packages, detached debug symbols, and packages conflicting with packages of priority >= important (or maybe >= standard) that will continue to do

Re: Bug#758234: Bug#759260: [PATCH] Remove priority "extra", make all corresponding packages priority "optional"

2014-08-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Matthias Urlichs writes: > Russ Allbery: >> Could you say more about why you think conflicting packages having a >> separate priority from optional is useful? When would people use that >> priority information, and how? > Let's assume that I have a large multiuser Debian system. I don't want >

Bug#759186: debian-policy: please consider adding "nodoc" as a possible value for DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS to policy

2014-08-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 06:06:01AM +0200, Johannes Schauer a écrit : > > please consider adding "nodoc" as a possible DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS value to > § 4.9.1 [1]. > > The value "nodoc" or "nodocs" is currently used in 72 source packages > according to [2]. Documenting "nodoc" in policy would avoid t

Bug#759186: debian-policy: please consider adding "nodoc" as a possible value for DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS to policy

2014-08-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy writes: > I think that it is a good idea. Here is a draft patch. > When writing this patch, I became unsure if “*-doc” packages are the > best description for the binary packages that will not be built. Should > it be any package in the “documentation” section instead ? Or shou

Bug#759316: Document the use of /etc/default for cron jobs

2014-08-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 09:55:29AM +0200, Tanguy Ortolo a écrit : > > For practical reasons, variables that are used to configure init scripts > behaviour are placed in separate files in /etc/default, as documented in > Policy §9.3.2. > > The same is often applied to cron jobs as well, for the sa

Bug#758234: Bug#759260: [PATCH] Remove priority "extra", make all corresponding packages priority "optional"

2014-08-26 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Russ Allbery: > > Let's assume that I have a large multiuser Debian system. I don't want > > to be bothered by people requesting this or that package all the time, > > so I simply install everything that's of priority > Has anyone actually done this in the last five years? I'm extremely > d

Bug#758234: Bug#759260: [PATCH] Remove priority "extra", make all corresponding packages priority "optional"

2014-08-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:43:16AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs a écrit : > Russ Allbery: > > > > Do you actually do this? Is optional actually conflict-free? I'm pretty > > sure it isn't. > > > No, it's not. But I'd like it to be. > > However, if a consensus should emerge that it's too much hassl

Bug#758234: [PATCH] Remove priority "extra", make all corresponding packages priority "optional"

2014-08-26 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Russ Allbery writes: >> In some cases, it can change maintenance decisions. > > Does this differ much from packages being picked up by other commonly > installed software? Say GNOME starting to depend on my small library > which suddenly raises from ~100 to 5+ report