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2010-07-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#400322: Limiting non-build-time relationships to a set of architectures?

2010-07-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery writes: > If this already works, we should document it, since it can be quite > useful. Here's an attempt at wording. Please check this and make sure > that I'm correctly documenting what works. I've now merged this patch for the next release. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)

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2010-07-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#402721: Please make clear, that "conflicts" should only be used when really necessary

2010-07-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery writes: > Tobias Frost writes: >> Looking at #262257, as an exampple, there are packages which declares >> conflicts for whatever reason. However, the reason is NOT, that thec >> packages could not co-existent on the same system (For the example, >> retchmail could be also installed

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2010-07-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#445203: debian-policy: 10.8. Log files: /etc/logrotate.d/ preferred

2010-07-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek writes: > I think "invoke-rc.d" is wrong per se for this. Where the behavior of > 'invoke-rc.d foo reload' differs from that of '/etc/init.d/reload', it's > *incorrect* in the context of log rotation: the post-rotation reopening > of logfiles should complete regardless of the runl

Bug#459868: debian-policy: Definition of Maintainer: when using a mailing list

2010-07-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery writes: > Yeah, there's that too. We're probably best off just saying that every > package needs a maintainer. Hopefully it's clear enough since we're > saying that the package needs one, not just the software. Here's a patch which implements that. Objections or seconds? diff --

Bug#556015: Clarify requirements for copyright file

2010-07-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Don Armstrong writes: > On Mon, 05 Jul 2010, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Well, they do, in that binNMUs do change the changelog included in the >> package. I'm inclined to agree that it's not a big deal if we lose that >> information in the installed package, though. > Right; this is kind of an odd t

Bug#556015: debian-policy: Clarify requirements for copyright file

2010-07-07 Thread Julien Cristau
Sorry for coming back to this, I think I missed this new requirement initially (or I skipped this thread, I don't remember...). On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 23:28:11 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Charles Plessy writes: > > Le Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:22:37PM -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit : > > >> It's a

Bug#556015: Clarify requirements for copyright file

2010-07-07 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Russ Allbery , 2010-07-07, 09:12: + + The packages are the same version (both source and Debian + revision) with the possible exception of binary-only + rebuilds of one of the packages, since otherwise + the changelog.Debian.gz in one o

Bug#556015: Clarify requirements for copyright file

2010-07-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Jakub Wilk writes: > * Russ Allbery , 2010-07-07, 09:12: >>+ >>+ The packages are the same version (both source and Debian >>+ revision) with the possible exception of binary-only >>+ rebuilds of one of the packages, since otherwise >>+ the changel

Bug#556015: Clarify requirements for copyright file

2010-07-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010, Jakub Wilk wrote: > This encourages arch:any -> arch:all symlinks, which is exactly what > I wanted to be disallowed. If we're going to allow any symlinks, these are the ones that are most advantagous to allow, because otherwise we're duplicating documentation and copyrights i

Bug#556015: debian-policy: Clarify requirements for copyright file

2010-07-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 05:36:34PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > > I'm also proposing changing the requirement for debian/copyright from a > > should to a must. I believe that reflects existing practice. A package > > that has no debian/copyright file is not going to make it into the archive >

Bug#556015: debian-policy: Clarify requirements for copyright file

2010-07-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek writes: > On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 05:36:34PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: >> Russ Allbery writes: >>> I'm also proposing changing the requirement for debian/copyright from >>> a should to a must. I believe that reflects existing practice. A >>> package that has no debian/copyrig

Bug#556015: Clarify requirements for copyright file

2010-07-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 07:16:52PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Don Armstrong writes: > > On Sun, 04 Jul 2010, Russ Allbery wrote: > >> Here's the question: should we say flat-out that both packages must > >> either be architecture-dependent or architecture-independent and then > >> say that the

Bug#556015: Clarify requirements for copyright file

2010-07-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 11:59:51AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > I think there's some confusion here; [debian/changelog] documents changes > to the source package, and as such, should always have the source > version listed. [Binnmus have a changelog revision, but this is > technically a violation,

Bug#556015: Clarify requirements for copyright file

2010-07-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek writes: > OTOH, thinking ahead a little bit, if we *do* insist on requiring > changelog entries for binNMUs in the package that may make things > interesting for multiarch. Since binNMUS are per-architecture, binNMUS > on two architectures may have the same version but different c

Bug#556015: Clarify requirements for copyright file

2010-07-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 05:30:57PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Steve Langasek writes: > > OTOH, thinking ahead a little bit, if we *do* insist on requiring > > changelog entries for binNMUs in the package that may make things > > interesting for multiarch. Since binNMUS are per-architecture, bi

Bug#556015: Clarify requirements for copyright file

2010-07-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 11:59:51AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > I think there's some confusion here; [debian/changelog] documents changes > > to the source package, and as such, should always have the source > > version listed. [Binnmus have a changel

Bug#556015: Clarify requirements for copyright file

2010-07-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek writes: > On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 05:30:57PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Steve Langasek writes: >>> OTOH, thinking ahead a little bit, if we *do* insist on requiring >>> changelog entries for binNMUs in the package that may make things >>> interesting for multiarch. Since binNM