Re: Bug#508644: mass bugfiling (against 8 packages) and/or new package default-mta

2009-02-27 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 03:42:39PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: But as this would hardcode exim4 as the default MTA for Debian in a number of packages, some better solutions have been proposed in http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/05/msg00381.html with the best choi

Re: Bug#508644: mass bugfiling (against 8 packages) and/or new package default-mta

2009-02-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Marc, hi Andreas, On Freitag, 27. Februar 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > Also, I haven't seen the exim4 maintainers comment on this proposal until > now. Obviously we would want to get that package to Provide: default-mta > before filing bugs on other packages. Could you please take a look at

Re: Bug#508644: mass bugfiling (against 8 packages) and/or new package default-mta

2009-02-27 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 03:42:39PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: But as this would hardcode exim4 as the default MTA for Debian in a number of packages, some better solutions have been proposed in http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/05/msg

Re: Bug#508644: mass bugfiling (against 8 packages) and/or new package default-mta

2009-02-27 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:51:39PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 03:42:39PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > > But as this would hardcode exim4 as the default MTA for Debian in a number > > of packages, some better solutions have been proposed in > > http://lists.debian.org/de

Re: Bug#508644: mass bugfiling (against 8 packages) and/or new package default-mta

2009-02-27 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:32:51AM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > BTW "mta" is IMHO wrong. In most of the cases (IIRC) programs needs > only a "sendmail" program. Should we split the dependencies on real-mta and > only on a sendmail provider. > > BTW we should

Re: Bug#508644: mass bugfiling (against 8 packages) and/or new package default-mta

2009-02-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:37:19AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:51:39PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 03:42:39PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > > > But as this would hardcode exim4 as the default MTA for Debian in a number > > > of packages, som

Re: Bug#508644: mass bugfiling (against 8 packages) and/or new package default-mta

2009-02-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 09:46:15AM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: >> Given that m-t-a is mentioned explicitly in policy, and that "default-mta" >> will be a virtual package, I think this should be recorded in policy as well >> - though if a clear consensus emerges on debian-devel, there's no ne

Re: Bug#508644: mass bugfiling (against 8 packages) and/or new package default-mta

2009-02-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:32:51AM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: >> I would prefer to create a real empty package: >> default-mta (maybe in a source package debian-defaults), which depends >> on exim. > BTW "mta" is IMHO wrong. In most of the cases (IIRC) programs needs > only a "sendmail" p

Re: Bug#508644: mass bugfiling (against 8 packages) and/or new package default-mta

2009-02-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek writes: > In practice, we have the LSB definition of the interfaces that > /usr/sbin/sendmail have to support; all but one of the MTA packages in > Debian implement this interface (the odd duck is nullmailer, which > Conflicts: lsb for this reason...) > > But perhaps that definitio