Re: Policy Suggestion - User Configuration Files

2003-01-09 Thread Gerd Knorr
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 07:30:33PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 01:08:45PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > Still speaking as a user, I'm not annoyed by a dotfile per program I > > use. I'm much more annoyed by all the useless dotfiles, created by > > programs that I run once

Re: Policy Suggestion - User Configuration Files

2003-01-09 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 04:52:46PM +0100, Gerd Knorr wrote: > > > Still speaking as a user, I'm not annoyed by a dotfile per program I > > > use. I'm much more annoyed by all the useless dotfiles, created by > > > programs that I run once, and never again, without even having saved a > > > configur

Re: Policy Suggestion - User Configuration Files

2003-01-09 Thread Gerd Knorr
> > It caches information to reduce startup times. dlopen() 10 *.so files > > and doing various function calls to get all the info stored in that file > > takes some time ... > > Yeah but I _don't_ _need_ _no_ _libquicktime_ _codecs_, so avoiding to waste > all that time can be done simply by not

Re: Policy Suggestion - User Configuration Files

2003-01-09 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 05:11:11PM +0100, Gerd Knorr wrote: > > > It caches information to reduce startup times. dlopen() 10 *.so files > > > and doing various function calls to get all the info stored in that file > > > takes some time ... > > > > Yeah but I _don't_ _need_ _no_ _libquicktime_ _c

Re: Policy Suggestion - User Configuration Files

2003-01-09 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 05:19:59PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 05:11:11PM +0100, Gerd Knorr wrote: > > > xawtv wants to know: when it creates all the windows and widgets at > > startup time. There is a menu with the available codecs in the > > record dialog ... > > Yeah,

Bug#99933: second attempt at more comprehensive unicode policy

2003-01-09 Thread Jochen Voss
Hello, On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 01:00:19AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > Seriously, I didn't mean it that way; I just meant that I think everyone > has generally accepted that UTF-8 is the way of the future; we're just > debating when, where, and how. I want to challenge the "everyone" in your sent

Bug#99933: second attempt at more comprehensive unicode policy

2003-01-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 13:28, Jochen Voss wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 01:00:19AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > Seriously, I didn't mean it that way; I just meant that I think everyone > > has generally accepted that UTF-8 is the way of the future; we're just > > debating when, whe

Bug#99933: second attempt at more comprehensive unicode policy

2003-01-09 Thread David Starner
>I agree that it would be a good idea to store filenames as UTF-8 >in the filesystem. But I (being a part of "everyone") do not >agree, that we should even try to switch every terminal in the >world to UTF-8. We do need conversion of file names somewhere >between the filesystem level and output.

Bug#99933: second attempt at more comprehensive unicode policy

2003-01-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 20:57, David Starner wrote: > A Posix filename is a null terminated byte string (sans '/'). Any > widescale conversion is going to cause aliasing issues and other > bugs, whether or not we stay Posix compatible. > Just as important, conversion is not an issue for debian-pol

Bug#99933: second attempt at more comprehensive unicode policy

2003-01-09 Thread David Starner
At 10:29 PM 1/9/2003 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: Right. Did the people on that list come up with any general plan for how GNU/Linux vendors should transition? Not anything written up that I know of. Debian-i18n has a large cross membership, which was part of the reason this should be on debian

Bug#99933: second attempt at more comprehensive unicode policy

2003-01-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 23:05, David Starner wrote: > Not anything written up that I know of. Debian-i18n has a large cross > membership, which was part of the reason this should be on debian-i18n. Ok, if people want to move this discussion that's fine by me. > >Are you saying that programs should