Bug#89473: [PROPOSAL] dpkg-statoverride and Conflicts: suidmanager (<< 0.50)

2001-03-13 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.2.0 Severity: wishlist The man page for dh_suidregister says that any package containing a SUID/SGID binary no longer needs to use suidregister, instead, users can use dpkg-statoverride as necessary. Policy (section 11.9, "Permissions and Owners") doesn't talk

Re: the math section should really be science

2001-03-13 Thread Drew Parsons
On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 07:03:51PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > > I'm packaging viewmol, a program for visualising molecules, used in > > > computational chemistry. > > > > > > The question arises, what subsection should it be put into? > > > A comparable program, rasmol, is already in debian,

Re: the math section should really be science

2001-03-13 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 10:54:45PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote: > Seems to me there's still a gaping hole in policy though. Is > packages.debian.org really supposed to be the definitive arbiter of policy > with regards to sections? The grep-available trick is obscure enough to not > count. Shouldn

Bug#89473: PROPOSAL] dpkg-statoverride and Conflicts: suidmanager (<< 0.50)

2001-03-13 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 10:20:49PM -0800, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Version: 3.5.2.0 > Severity: wishlist > > The man page for dh_suidregister says that any package containing a > SUID/SGID binary no longer needs to use suidregister, instead, users > can use dpkg-statoverrid

Bug#89473: PROPOSAL] dpkg-statoverride and Conflicts: suidmanager (<< 0.50)

2001-03-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Ben Gertzfield wrote: > If I understand dpkg-statoverride correctly, mentioning that > dpkg-statoverride is not to be called from maintainer post/pre > install scripts should also be added. Euhm, how did you come to that conclusion? Wichert. --

Bug#89473: PROPOSAL] dpkg-statoverride and Conflicts: suidmanager (<< 0.50)

2001-03-13 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > If I understand dpkg-statoverride correctly, mentioning that > dpkg-statoverride is not to be called from maintainer post/pre > install scripts should also be added. I oppose that. How am I supposed to have dynamically-created UIDs [that are not created

Bug#89473: PROPOSAL] dpkg-statoverride and Conflicts: suidmanager (<< 0.50)

2001-03-13 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 11:56:59AM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > > If I understand dpkg-statoverride correctly, mentioning that > > dpkg-statoverride is not to be called from maintainer post/pre > > install scripts should also be added. > > I oppo

Bug#89473: PROPOSAL] dpkg-statoverride and Conflicts: suidmanager (<< 0.50)

2001-03-13 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 02:21:47PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Ben Gertzfield wrote: > > If I understand dpkg-statoverride correctly, mentioning that > > dpkg-statoverride is not to be called from maintainer post/pre > > install scripts should also be added. > > Euhm, how did you c

Bug#89473: PROPOSAL] dpkg-statoverride and Conflicts: suidmanager (<< 0.50)

2001-03-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Julian Gilbey wrote: > dpkg-statoverride --list is OK, adding or removing overrides is almost > certainly not. It most certainly is. Think dynamic useres and groups, user interaction if debconf isn't available, etc. Wichert. --

Bug#89473: PROPOSAL] dpkg-statoverride and Conflicts: suidmanager (<< 0.50)

2001-03-13 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Julian Gilbey wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 11:56:59AM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > > > If I understand dpkg-statoverride correctly, mentioning that > > > dpkg-statoverride is not to be called from maintainer post/pre > >

Bug#89473: PROPOSAL] dpkg-statoverride and Conflicts: suidmanager (<< 0.50)

2001-03-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Julian Gilbey wrote: > But you mustn't use dpkg-statoverride to introduce new overrides; > that's the responsibility of the local sysadmin. That is a vlid point, but has nothing to do with where you use dpkg-statoverride. I don't think policy should mention where you can use it. Policy

Bug#89473: PROPOSAL] dpkg-statoverride and Conflicts: suidmanager (<< 0.50)

2001-03-13 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Wichert" == Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Julian> dpkg-statoverride --list is OK, adding or removing Julian> overrides is almost certainly not. Wichert> It most certainly is. Think dynamic useres and groups, Wichert> user interaction if debconf isn't availabl

Bug#89473: PROPOSAL] dpkg-statoverride and Conflicts: suidmanager (<< 0.50)

2001-03-13 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Wichert" == Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Wichert> Policy should set guidelines for making packages [...] Wichert> The less details, the better. Um. Policy *IS* the guide for making packages now. There's no Packaging Manual any more, and so these kinds of details

Re: the math section should really be science

2001-03-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 10:54:45PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote: > Seems to me there's still a gaping hole in policy though. Is > packages.debian.org really supposed to be the definitive arbiter of policy > with regards to sections? The grep-available trick is obscure enough to not > count. Shouldn

Bug#89473: PROPOSAL] dpkg-statoverride and Conflicts: suidmanager (<< 0.50)

2001-03-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Ben Gertzfield wrote: > That's a good usage, but for the "old" suidregister-like behavior, > normal SUID/SGID apps do *not* need to be dpkg-statoverride'd, > as far as I can tell. That's all I want to get in policy; we > should mention that it's OK for dynamic users/groups. What exactl

Re: the math section should really be science

2001-03-13 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010313T203223+0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > Well, none of these are the canonical source, they just read data from it -- > the override file, see the /indices/override.* files on every mirror. Actually, the canonical source is Katie's database. Even the override files are nowadays generated fro

Re: the math section should really be science

2001-03-13 Thread Drew Parsons
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 08:32:23PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 10:54:45PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote: > > Seems to me there's still a gaping hole in policy though. Is > > packages.debian.org really supposed to be the definitive arbiter of policy > > with regards to sections?

Bug#89473: PROPOSAL] dpkg-statoverride and Conflicts: suidmanager (<< 0.50)

2001-03-13 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Wichert" == Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Wichert> What exactly do you want in policy? `if you behave like Wichert> the old suidregister don't do this' or so? I really don't Wichert> see the use of that. The conflicts that man dh_suidregister mentions should be i