On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 04:39:47PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >>"Radim" == Radim Kolar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Radim> In section 3.3.2. is not clear what 'restart' does.
> Radim> 1. restart=stop and start
> Radim> 2. if service is running, stop it and start it, when is not
> Radim>
On 23-Mar-00, 18:32 (CST), Anthony Towns wrote:
> The main case (IMHO) where we need a `maybe-restart' is in postinst's
> so that an upgrade doesn't restart a service that doesn't need to be
> restarted.
That may not work the way one would think it would, for a couple of
reasons. One is that I'd
On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 06:04:22PM -0600, Zed Pobre wrote:
> I suggest "static-restart", static in the sense of not changing
> current behaviour.
Wouldn't this work just as well?
/etc/init.d/daemon stop && /etc/init.d/daemon start
IIRC, the former will exit with a nonzero status if there is
Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> > The policy manual says that all standard packages should be installed by
> > default "if the user doesn't select anything else". Randolph and I have
> > talked about this before, inconclusively. I don't know if it makes sense to
> > only install standard if you select no ta
Steve Gore writes ("Re: New policy draft available at
http://master.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/policy/";):
> Form a group (Policy Advocacy Team?) to pick up new policy
> proposals, [...] I know that the first big hurdle would be "What if
> someone gets assigned to a proposal they don't agree with?",
On Fri, Mar 24, 2000 at 10:00:58AM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> I think that the fundamental problem is that the policy manual needs
> to be coherent and well-thought-out, which means that it needs to be
> edited by one or more people who are technically excellent, have the
> foresight to anticipate
>>"Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Joey> Sure. Policy folks, we're talking about what tasksel installs
Joey> on a freshly installed debian system.
The definition of standard is the set of packages that some
one familair with UNIX/Linux would be surprised not to find on a
>>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ian> I think that the fundamental problem is that the policy manual needs
Ian> to be coherent and well-thought-out, which means that it needs to be
Ian> edited by one or more people who are technically excellent, have the
Ian> foresight to ant
>>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ian> I think that the fundamental problem is that the policy manual needs
Ian> to be coherent and well-thought-out, which means that it needs to be
Ian> edited by one or more people who are technically excellent, have the
Ian> foresight to ant
Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: New policy draft available at
http://master.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/policy/";):
> Umm, no. I would not object to the DPL's delegate(s) having
> the power to overide a formal objection, but there should be some
> checks and balances. I was just trying to sugg
Radim Kolar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In section 3.3.2. is not clear what 'restart' does.
> 1. restart=stop and start
> or
> 2. if service is running, stop it and start it, when is not
> running, do not start it.
The former is what restart does on every other *NIX system I've ever
used. If
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> > I personally think we have a lot of gaps in what is installed by the
> > task-* packages, but I haven't heard too many complaints.
>
> Tasksel already installs all required and important packages, which must
> fill most of the holes
On 24-Mar-00, 01:13 (CST), Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wouldn't this work just as well?
>
> /etc/init.d/daemon stop && /etc/init.d/daemon start
>
> IIRC, the former will exit with a nonzero status if there is nothing to
> kill. (Of course, for this to work, people need to be c
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> The definition of standard is the set of packages that some
> one familair with UNIX/Linux would be surprised not to find on a
> machine.
Er, no, that's the definition of important. "If the expectation is that an
experienced Unix person who found it missing woul
David Huggins-Daines wrote:
> For example, I did an install with tasksel. I selected the SGML
> tasks. PSGML depends on:
>
> Depends: emacs19 | emacs20 | xemacs21, sgml-base, sgml-data
That's a bug in psgml.
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