Re: menu, translation, etc

1999-07-08 Thread joost witteveen
Je 1999/07/06(2)/13:07, Marco d'Itri montris sian geniecon skribante: > On Jul 06, joost witteveen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >But for now, I hope you like the progress being made so far. > I don't. You haven't replied to my concerns. I'm very sorry, I never seem to have gotten your reply.

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 04:22:39PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Joseph Carter wrote: > > Um. Given glibc2.1 it would be Very Unsmart to try to use potato packages > > on a slink system. > > Arch: all Yes this could in theory work, but it's a very small subset of packages and I'd rather it be consid

Re: PROPOSAL: changelog.html.gz sanitization

1999-07-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 11:02:26AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > If the upstream changelog file is HTML formatted, it must be accessible as > `/usr/doc//changelog.html.gz' with > `/usr/doc//changelog.gz' being a symbolic link to it. Er, uhh, I don't like that because I think that, in general, H

Re: How to handle combined README/changelog file?

1999-07-08 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 05:45:46PM +0200, Thomas Schoepf wrote: > [Please CC me, I'm not subscribed to this list] > > I have a package that contains a README file with the program's history at > the bottom. I've read the Policy about changelog files but afai can see > this is a special case. > >

Bug#40706: usr/share/doc vs. /usr/doc

1999-07-08 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> My idea (please note, this is only a first idea and there may be some > difficulties with which should be fixed) is, that the new (FHS aware) > debhelper could add something in postinst, which creates a symlink > /usr/doc/ pointing to /usr/share/doc/ if (and only > if) there is no special "flag"

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-08 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Joseph Carter wrote: > Did we come up with a sane transition for /usr/share/info yet? I think so: http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-policy-9904/msg00016.html There are some pending issues: * Need a lintian check for the use of install-info's hardcoded --infodir in

New LGPL and references in copyright files.

1999-07-08 Thread Santiago Vila
Hi *, To deal with a wishlist bug with which I agree, I'm going to replace the LGPL in base-files by the new "Lesser GNU Public License", which is also called "LGPL". Since the new LGPL is the successor of the old LGPL, I would consider that copyright files saying "you will find the Library GNU Pu

Re: Clarification: Eliminate nagging at installation time?

1999-07-08 Thread Norbert Nemec
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 10:07:46AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Norbert Nemec wrote: > > Ok, but the problem I see, is that you are forced to answer all the > > questions right there in the middle of the installation. If you don't want > > to (or can't) decide right there, there is oten no possibility

Re: Clarification: Eliminate nagging at installation time?

1999-07-08 Thread Norbert Nemec
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 10:04:09AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Norbert Nemec wrote: > > IMO, packages should under no circumstances complain > > about anything if it is avoidable at all. No matter if there is a automatic > > configuration system or not. We should simply make it policy that a package

Re: New LGPL and references in copyright files.

1999-07-08 Thread Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Santiago Vila wrote: > Hi *, > > To deal with a wishlist bug with which I agree, I'm going to replace the > LGPL in base-files by the new "Lesser GNU Public License", which is also > called "LGPL". Since the new LGPL is the successor of the old LGPL, I > would consider that co

Re: New LGPL and references in copyright files.

1999-07-08 Thread Darren O. Benham
On Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 12:10:46PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > Hi *, > > To deal with a wishlist bug with which I agree, I'm going to replace the > LGPL in base-files by the new "Lesser GNU Public License", which is also > called "LGPL". Since the new LGPL is the successor of the old LGPL, I > w

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 11:30:55AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > I'm sorry Joseph, but you're trying to throw years of tradition out the > window, and I just can't stand for it. Maybe it's because I've only been around since bo and even then I upgraded to hamm within 48 hours of installing bo, but thi

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-08 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: > I'm sorry Joseph, but you're trying to throw years of tradition out the > window, and I just can't stand for it. Ok, that's a bit curt and I apologize. Now that I'm actually awake what I meant to say is: We have always had partial upgradability as one of our goals, albeit one o

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-08 Thread Joey Hess
Joseph Carter wrote: > When slink's epic4 had a DoS in the ANSI color parser the fix was "install > potato's epic4"---but that couldn't be expected to work given potato is > glibc2.1 could it? In fact it wouldn't, so I rebuilt it on master. I just did a test. Installed a new stable system, inform

Re: New LGPL and references in copyright files.

1999-07-08 Thread Rob Tillotson
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does somebody feel the need to clarificate this, so that it explicitly > says whether it refers to the old LGPL, the new one, or both of > them? Yes, please. I don't necessarily disagree with the idea of making /usr/share/common-licenses/LGPL the new ve

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-08 Thread Joey Hess
I'm sorry Joseph, but you're trying to throw years of tradition out the window, and I just can't stand for it. Joseph Carter wrote: > On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 04:22:39PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > > Joseph Carter wrote: > > > Um. Given glibc2.1 it would be Very Unsmart to try to use potato packages

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 11:58:40AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Joey Hess wrote: > > I'm sorry Joseph, but you're trying to throw years of tradition out the > > window, and I just can't stand for it. > > Ok, that's a bit curt and I apologize. Now that I'm actually awake what I > meant to say is: > >

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 12:29:28PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Joseph Carter wrote: > > When slink's epic4 had a DoS in the ANSI color parser the fix was "install > > potato's epic4"---but that couldn't be expected to work given potato is > > glibc2.1 could it? In fact it wouldn't, so I rebuilt it o

Bug#40706: usr/share/doc vs. /usr/doc

1999-07-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Richard" == Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard> The best thing to do is probably to make sure that /usr/doc/ and Richard> /usr/share/doc end up on the same filesystem, but in separate Richard> directories. Umm, how do we do that? We have really no control over

Re: Bug#40742: proftpd: needs to conflict only with old wu-ftpds

1999-07-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Josip" == Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Josip> proposing that a new virtual package be registered on the Josip> official virtual packages list. The proper name would be Josip> 'ftp-server', because IIRC there is a package called ftpd Josip> already. Is there any objec

Re: Some comments on policy 3.0.0.0 proposal (1999-06-29)

1999-07-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Wichert" == Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Wichert> Previously Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >>"Yann" == Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Yann> 2.1.7. Subsections Yann> "The packages in the _main_, _contrib_, Yann> and _non-free_ sections are grouped further into _s

Re: New LGPL and references in copyright files.

1999-07-08 Thread Havoc Pennington
On 8 Jul 1999, Rob Tillotson wrote: > > (Just in case anyone wonders, one of my packages -- both upstream and > Debian -- falls into category (1) above, specifically because I > thought that it was likely that RMS would someday decide to sabotage > the LGPL. I may be stuck with using it, but I'm

Bug#40706: usr/share/doc vs. /usr/doc

1999-07-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 10:46:30AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Richard> The best thing to do is probably to make sure that /usr/doc/ and > Richard> /usr/share/doc end up on the same filesystem, but in separate > Richard> directories. > > Umm, how do we do that? We have really no

Debian conflicts with FHS on /usr/include/{linux,asm}

1999-07-08 Thread Brian Servis
Just curious how Debian is going to stand on the FHS requirements for /usr/include kernel headers in section 6.1.5 of the FHS? Is the practice of including known good headers with libc6-dev going to continue? If so then the exception should be noted in the new policy manual. Quoting http://www.

Bug#40706: usr/share/doc vs. /usr/doc

1999-07-08 Thread Ron
> >>"Richard" == Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Richard> The best thing to do is probably to make sure that /usr/doc/ and > Richard> /usr/share/doc end up on the same filesystem, but in separate > Richard> directories. > > Umm, how do we do that? We have really no con

Re: Debian conflicts with FHS on /usr/include/{linux,asm}

1999-07-08 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Brian" == Brian Servis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> Just curious how Debian is going to stand on the FHS Brian> requirements for /usr/include kernel headers in section Brian> 6.1.5 of the FHS? Is the practice of including known good Brian> headers with libc6-dev going

Re: Debian conflicts with FHS on /usr/include/{linux,asm}

1999-07-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 03:52:30PM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > Just for examples, I cite VMWare and OSS as two packages that fail > miserably on a Debian system because it's so different. The way OSS does it is broken anyway. I can't speak fro vmware. -- Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>