Re: Bug#39463,#39482,#39493: timidity, cdrdao, cdtool has no manpage for something

1999-06-19 Thread Joey Hess
Christoph Lameter wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Roland Rosenfeld wrote: > > > So what about simply removing the paragraph about undocumented.7 from > > the policy and change lintian to flame if there is only this symlink? > > Seconded. I'm not going to track this as a proposal in the policy summ

Re: System integrity...

1999-06-19 Thread Joey Hess
Chris Leishman wrote: > What I propose is to extend the security of Debian. I do not propose an > "ultimate security solution", but simply a method to increase the security > debian offers to users. The proposal is as follows: > > > Each package can contain a DEBIAN/md5sums file. This is nor

Re: Message subjects

1999-06-19 Thread Joey Hess
Julian Gilbey wrote: > Now that Joey is posting a "weekly policy summary", *please* ensure to > change the title before replying to the group regarding points > raised. Otherwise, there will probably end up being multiple threads > with the subject "Re: weekly policy summary", which is really > un

Re: Bug#39463,#39482,#39493: timidity, cdrdao, cdtool has no manpage for something

1999-06-19 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: > > > So what about simply removing the paragraph about undocumented.7 from > > > the policy and change lintian to flame if there is only this symlink? > > I'd second this myself, but I really want to hear from someone who was > around when this was put in policy in the first plac

seconding /etc/init.d/script need not be a conffile if actively maintained

1999-06-19 Thread Joey Hess
I second this proposal. See the bug report for details. This seems to be just a clarification of unclear wording in policy, not a true policy change. Does anyone disagree with it? -- see shy jo

weekly policy summary

1999-06-19 Thread Joey Hess
[ Please change this message's subject to the subject of the item you are talking about before replying to it.] Here's what's been happening on debian-policy this week. Despite the chaos of starting my new job, I've managed to get out this week's policy summary. In fact, it was trivial since ther

Re: seconding /etc/init.d/script need not be a conffile if actively maintained

1999-06-19 Thread Aaron Van Couwenberghe
On Fri, Jun 18, 1999 at 11:00:36PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > I second this proposal. > > See the bug report for details. This seems to be just a clarification of > unclear wording in policy, not a true policy change. Does anyone disagree > with it? I will voice my approval here as well. I offici

Data section

1999-06-19 Thread Edward Betts
On debian-policy, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [ Please change this message's subject to the subject of the item you are > talking about before replying to it.] Done > Let's Debian blow... gracefully! > * Stalled for 2 weeks. > * Proposed by Fabien Ninoles; seconded by Sean E. Perry

Re: removing links from main to contrib|non-free (was: weekly policy summary)

1999-06-19 Thread Jim Lynch
> Date:18 Jun 1999 11:08:08 +0200 > To: Goswin Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: Debian Policy List > From:"Davide G. M. Salvetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * GB => Goswin Brederlow > > GB> If the suggests to non-free or contrib are depreciated by policy > GB> or even forbi

Re: removing links from main to contrib|non-free (was: weekly policy summary)

1999-06-19 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Jun 19, Jim Lynch wrote: > Maybe we can do this: IF the user adds a non-free source to apt's > sources.list, then and ONLY then should any free software installed > or available reveal a suggestion or recommendation of non-free or > contrib software. Should it become revealed, it would then take

Menu-2.0, optimized menu tree, hints

1999-06-19 Thread joost witteveen
Hi there, I've just released menu-2.0. It has many new features, one of wich is the automatic optimization of the menu tree, using something I've called "hints". This is what I want to start discussion about with this message. First, why: On my system, there are only two

Why not debian-packaging-doc

1999-06-19 Thread ch
Hi ! I would suggest to rename packaging-manual to debian-packaging-doc ? This name does fit better and - the main cause - one finds it easier when looking through the /usr/doc/ directory. (once searched half an hour for some information because I forgot the name...) read you, -christian-

Re: Menu-2.0, optimized menu tree, hints

1999-06-19 Thread Joey Hess
joost witteveen wrote: > I've just released menu-2.0. It has many new features, one of > wich is the automatic optimization of the menu tree, using > something I've called "hints". This is what I want to start > discussion about with this message. Wow! You've utterly bypassed the whole policy is

Re: Data section

1999-06-19 Thread Joey Hess
Edward Betts wrote: > These two are the same proposal. It's two separate proposals, if the authors of them want to merge them they can. -- see shy jo

Re: Menu-2.0, optimized menu tree, hints

1999-06-19 Thread joost witteveen
Je 1999/06/19(6)/13:06, Joey Hess montris sian geniecon skribante: > joost witteveen wrote: > > I've just released menu-2.0. It has many new features, one of > > wich is the automatic optimization of the menu tree, using > > something I've called "hints". This is what I want to start > > discussi

Re: Menu-2.0, optimized menu tree, hints

1999-06-19 Thread Chris Waters
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > joost witteveen wrote: > > Although this procedure ignores the real debian tree (so much > > discussed about), it does eventually come up that look surprisingly > > like just that tree. > Can you post an example? The thing I'm concerned about is consistency

Re: Menu-2.0, optimized menu tree, hints

1999-06-19 Thread Joey Hess
joost witteveen wrote: > > It sounds like this can generate > > many possible trees that, while optimal, are very different depending on > > what's installed. Which means that a user who is familiar with the menus on > > one system might be completly lost on another. > > Well, the trees generated

Re: Menu-2.0, optimized menu tree, hints

1999-06-19 Thread joost witteveen
Je 1999/06/19(6)/14:06, Chris Waters montris sian geniecon skribante: > I'm also a little concerned about possible confusion for the > individual users. As it is now, when I install a new package, and I > can't find the menu entry in the first place I look, I just go check > the /usr/lib/menu/pkg

Re: Menu-2.0, optimized menu tree, hints

1999-06-19 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: > Well the alternative that has been brought up before is to make everything > use a deeper tree (like Apps/Editors/Big/Emacsen), and have menu > automatically collapse the tree to Apps/Editors on your system with 2 editors > and keep the big tree on mine (that has every editor in

Re: Menu-2.0, optimized menu tree, hints

1999-06-19 Thread joost witteveen
Je 1999/06/19(6)/14:06, Joey Hess montris sian geniecon skribante: [..] > Well the alternative that has been brought up before is to make everything > use a deeper tree (like Apps/Editors/Big/Emacsen), and have menu > automatically collapse the tree to Apps/Editors on your system with 2 editors