Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-31 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 12:08:03AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 07:33:44AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:13:36AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > __Debian Standards Document__ > > > dpkg: > > >* version format > > >* maintainer scri

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-31 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 12:06:55AM +0900, Oohara Yuuma wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 00:08:03 +1000, > Anthony Towns wrote: > > Version number comparison is checked with 'dpkg --compare-versions', and > > the format is checked automatically by various tools. I've never found > > it necessary to look

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-31 Thread Oohara Yuuma
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 00:08:03 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Version number comparison is checked with 'dpkg --compare-versions', and > the format is checked automatically by various tools. I've never found > it necessary to look at the details of either except when I'm poking at > apt or dpkg's inte

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-31 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 07:33:44AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:13:36AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > __Debian Standards Document__ > > dpkg: > >* version format > >* maintainer scripts are run when and under what circumstances Both of these are irrelevant

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-31 Thread Julian Gilbey
I've just had what I think is a really useful idea On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:13:36AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > __Debian Standards Document__ This makes a lot of sense as a separate, technical, document, as you say. But I think that (at least a part of) the sections which I asterisk belo

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 11:44:38AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > __Debian Standards Document__ > > dpkg: > Most of the dpkg setup is so intricately connected with the packaging > process, that separating out some of this seems somewhat weird. > Although I guess that since this stuff is so clear

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:13:36AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 07:29:57AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > To split the (often borderline) cases of specs versus guidelines seems > > to me to be somewhat misguided. > > Well, that's nice, but if our best reason is "it seems

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 07:29:57AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: > To split the (often borderline) cases of specs versus guidelines seems > to me to be somewhat misguided. Well, that's nice, but if our best reason is "it seems to me", we're not going to get anywhere, because it seems to me to be qui

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-28 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 05:34:52PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > I think this makes a lot of conceptual sense. However, I don't think > > that having three separate documents necessarily makes sense from a > > reader's or editor's point of view. > > I'm inclined to disagree: I don't see there b

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-28 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Jul 27, 2002 at 10:55:14PM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: > On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 01:31:26AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 08:40:13AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > > I'd like to rewrite policy soonish. > > Into what, exactly? > > [...] split policy into three se

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-27 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sun, Jul 28, 2002 at 01:31:26AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 08:40:13AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > I'd like to rewrite policy soonish. > > Into what, exactly? > > Last time this came up we had a nice flamewar about it, but didn't seem > to resolve anything -- do

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-27 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 08:40:13AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: > I'd like to rewrite policy soonish. Into what, exactly? Last time this came up we had a nice flamewar about it, but didn't seem to resolve anything -- does it really make sense to do a rewrite while we as a project don't seem to h

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-26 Thread John R. Daily
At (time_t)1027611024 Sebastian Rittau wrote: > I would rather recommend using the existing Note tag with a > Role="rationale" attribute. This is a good idea. Extending DocBook with new tags is trivial, but is best done only when DocBook clearly fails to provide a needed construct. The styleshe

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-25 Thread Sebastian Rittau
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 08:40:13AM -0600, Julian Gilbey wrote: > I know that Manoj has been talking about moving to the DocBook DTD for > the next version of policy. What are people's experiences with it? > How does it compare to the DebianDoc DTD for what we are likely to > want to do? Could we

Re: Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Julian Gilbey wrote: > I know that Manoj has been talking about moving to the DocBook DTD for > the next version of policy. What are people's experiences with it? I use DocBook for all documents and manpages now and it works great. > How does it compare to the DebianDoc DTD for what w

Rewriting policy soonish if poss.

2002-07-25 Thread Julian Gilbey
I'd like to rewrite policy soonish. I've been talking about it for ages, but life has been *so* busy I'm at an awesome summer camp right now as a mentor, and that's a 24/7 job, so it'll be a few weeks yet. Primary question right now: I know that Manoj has been talking about moving to the Doc