Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-03-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale: you're the libc maintainer - are you following this discussion ? The fundamental problem here is that Manoj wants kernel-headers-* for development of weirdo programs which require particular kernel headers to compile. I don't think this is something that many people will need - after all, t

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-03-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src"): ... >> Umm, no. The kernel-* package maintainers use kernel-package, which >> produces (and has produced, in the past) the packages

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-03-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src"): ... > Umm, no. The kernel-* package maintainers use kernel-package, > which produces (and has produced, in the past) the packages > kernel-{headers,source,doc,image}-. There is no interaction > required b

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-03-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"James" == James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: James> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: James> Umm, well as the maintainer of kernel-*m68k*, I've already had James> to interact with the libc6 maintainer. Yes. But the current method removes one point of synchronizati

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-03-16 Thread James Troup
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Umm, no. The kernel-* package maintainers use kernel-package, which > produces (and has produced, in the past) the packages > kernel-{headers,source,doc,image}-. There is no interaction > required between the two sets of maintainers (libc-dev and kern

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-03-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> Manoj (SuperCite undone): [ Ian: ] >> > The package that the libc depends on (libc-kernelheaders perhaps) >> should be a plain .deb file which installs in >> /usr/include/{asm,...}. The libc should specify the version number >> via a depe

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-03-16 Thread Juan Cespedes
On Mon, Mar 16, 1998 at 01:58:17PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > This is still true if instead of kernel-headers-2.0.34 (2.0.34-1) > installing in /usr/src we have kernel-headers (2.0.34-1) installing in > /usr/include. Yes! I would love that idea! I have never liked those symbolic link

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-03-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Manoj (SuperCite undone): [ Ian: ] > > The package that the libc depends on (libc-kernelheaders perhaps) > > should be a plain .deb file which installs in > > /usr/include/{asm,...}. The libc should specify the version > > number via a dependency, rather than by changing the package > > name, becau

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-03-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> I have a compromise proposal that I think will satisfy the needs Ian> of both the `keep the kernel sources out of .deb files' and the Ian> `we must distribute kernel source' people. [proposal deleted] Ok. I can do that, if so de

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-03-04 Thread Ian Jackson
I have a compromise proposal that I think will satisfy the needs of both the `keep the kernel sources out of .deb files' and the `we must distribute kernel source' people. The real problem with kernel sources as .deb's is that there is insufficient flexibility within dpkg for dealing with issues t

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-02-10 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
I propose that perhaps source code distributed in .deb packages, such as kernel sources, be unpacked directly inside "/usr/src", and that the "/usr/src/debian" directory be designated for opening .dsc/.orig.tar.gz/tar.gz/diff.gz source sets. It occurs to me that this would be more of a conven

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-02-05 Thread Philip Hands
Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Furthermore, noone has yet to my knowledge come up with a good > argument as to why we should distribute source code in .deb files, > when we have a much better scheme for source code. The reason for doing this is in those cases where people who under norma

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-02-02 Thread fpolacco
On Mon, Feb 02, 1998 at 01:59:00PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Furthermore, noone has yet to my knowledge come up with a good > argument as to why we should distribute source code in .deb files, Ahem, I date to say I did. Nothing related to kernel or source compiling, it's source code added in

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-02-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: (supercite redone) Ian> Manoj (Supercite undone): Ian> Christian Schwarz: Christian> IMHO, /usr/local/src is the place for the sysadmin, Christian> /usr/src is the place for packages. Manoj> Not only is this a standard that we supposedly fo

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-02-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Manoj (Supercite undone): > Christian Schwarz: > > IMHO, /usr/local/src is the place for the sysadmin, > > /usr/src is the place for packages. > > Not only is this a standard that we supposedly follow, it is > also existing practice, as demonstrated by the kernel-* packages and > pcmcia-

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-01-15 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Red Hat has a "/usr/src/redhat" directory. Perhaps we should follow suit, and create a "/usr/src/debian" directory? I've begun using CVS to maintain my packages. I keep them in "/usr/src/debian/{Work,Build}".

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-01-15 Thread Brian White
> However, both FSSTND and FHS are very clearly state: > > /usr/src : > > [...] > > Any non-local source code should be placed in this subdirectory. > > IMHO, /usr/local/src is the place for the sysadmin, /usr/src is the place > for packages. Agreed.

Re: PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-01-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Christian" == Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Christian> However, both FSSTND and FHS are very clearly state: Christian> /usr/src : Christian> Any non-local source code should be placed in this Christian> subdirectory. Christian> IMHO, /usr/local/src is the place for the sysa

PW#5-16: Use of /usr/src

1998-01-13 Thread Christian Schwarz
[This mail is part of Debian Policy Weekly issue #5] Topic 16: Use of /usr/src STATE: DISCUSSION There was a discussion on the use of /usr/src on debian-devel a few days ago. A few people wanted /usr/src to be available for the local system administrator only, which means that no package may to