Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 12:19:09PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 11:30:55AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > > I'm sorry Joseph, but you're trying to throw years of tradition out the > > window, and I just can't stand for it. > > Maybe it's because I've only been around since bo a

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 12:29:28PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Joseph Carter wrote: > > When slink's epic4 had a DoS in the ANSI color parser the fix was "install > > potato's epic4"---but that couldn't be expected to work given potato is > > glibc2.1 could it? In fact it wouldn't, so I rebuilt it o

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 11:58:40AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Joey Hess wrote: > > I'm sorry Joseph, but you're trying to throw years of tradition out the > > window, and I just can't stand for it. > > Ok, that's a bit curt and I apologize. Now that I'm actually awake what I > meant to say is: > >

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-08 Thread Joey Hess
I'm sorry Joseph, but you're trying to throw years of tradition out the window, and I just can't stand for it. Joseph Carter wrote: > On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 04:22:39PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > > Joseph Carter wrote: > > > Um. Given glibc2.1 it would be Very Unsmart to try to use potato packages

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-08 Thread Joey Hess
Joseph Carter wrote: > When slink's epic4 had a DoS in the ANSI color parser the fix was "install > potato's epic4"---but that couldn't be expected to work given potato is > glibc2.1 could it? In fact it wouldn't, so I rebuilt it on master. I just did a test. Installed a new stable system, inform

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-08 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: > I'm sorry Joseph, but you're trying to throw years of tradition out the > window, and I just can't stand for it. Ok, that's a bit curt and I apologize. Now that I'm actually awake what I meant to say is: We have always had partial upgradability as one of our goals, albeit one o

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 11:30:55AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > I'm sorry Joseph, but you're trying to throw years of tradition out the > window, and I just can't stand for it. Maybe it's because I've only been around since bo and even then I upgraded to hamm within 48 hours of installing bo, but thi

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-08 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Joseph Carter wrote: > Did we come up with a sane transition for /usr/share/info yet? I think so: http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-policy-9904/msg00016.html There are some pending issues: * Need a lintian check for the use of install-info's hardcoded --infodir in

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-08 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 04:22:39PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Joseph Carter wrote: > > Um. Given glibc2.1 it would be Very Unsmart to try to use potato packages > > on a slink system. > > Arch: all Yes this could in theory work, but it's a very small subset of packages and I'd rather it be consid

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-07 Thread Joey Hess
Joel Klecker wrote: > man-db has supported the FHS paths for months. From the changelog: Yes, but we have other man browsers. -- see shy jo

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-07 Thread Joey Hess
Joseph Carter wrote: > Um. Given glibc2.1 it would be Very Unsmart to try to use potato packages > on a slink system. Arch: all > I don't know who came up with the idea of partial > upgradability Partial upgradability has been something debian has always managed. Every single person who tracks

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-07 Thread Joel Klecker
At 10:33 -0700 1999-07-07, Joey Hess wrote: What is it? I'd love to make debhelper start using that directory by default. man-db has supported the FHS paths for months. From the changelog: * FHS compliance: - add /usr/share/man in /etc/manpath.conf - move /var/catman to /var/cache/m

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-07 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 11:05:55AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Joseph Carter wrote: > > > What is it? I'd love to make debhelper start using that directory by > > > default. (And BTW, is /usr/share/X11R6/man supposed to be used for X man > > > pages?) > > > > No, /usr/X11R6/man should remain /usr/X1

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-07 Thread Joey Hess
Joseph Carter wrote: > > What is it? I'd love to make debhelper start using that directory by > > default. (And BTW, is /usr/share/X11R6/man supposed to be used for X man > > pages?) > > No, /usr/X11R6/man should remain /usr/X11R6/man---it's part of the whole > /usr/X11R6-is-left-alone-for-now-at-

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-07 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 10:33:10AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Joseph Carter wrote: > > In the case of /usr/share/man, we have already a sane transition. It's > > already in use by a number of packages. > > What is it? I'd love to make debhelper start using that directory by > default. (And BTW, is

Re: More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-07 Thread Joey Hess
Joseph Carter wrote: > In the case of /usr/share/man, we have already a sane transition. It's > already in use by a number of packages. What is it? I'd love to make debhelper start using that directory by default. (And BTW, is /usr/share/X11R6/man supposed to be used for X man pages?) > Did we c

More FHS discussion (Was: Uploaded debhelper 2.0.09 (source all) to master)

1999-07-07 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 04:59:39PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Changes: > debhelper (2.0.09) unstable; urgency=low > . >* dh_compress: added some FHS support. Though debhelper doesn't put >stuff there (and won't until people come up with a general transition >strategy or decide