Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-20 Thread Ian Jackson
Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output"): > I shall not be able to wqork on this over the weekend, but I > was planning on looking at the policy manual and gleaning stuff from > it. I intend ti have in the proposed manual things

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I shall not be able to wqork on this over the weekend, but I was planning on looking at the policy manual and gleaning stuff from it. I intend ti have in the proposed manual things that are required by policy (files in /tmp was one issue); but after listening to the people on this

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-18 Thread Christian Hudon
On Thursday, April 16, Manoj Srivastava wrote > > I shall have to think about how far do we go, and how to limit > the scope of this document. I do not think we can cover secure > programming, portable programming, introduction to common softeware > tools, historic bugs, I/O programming,

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-17 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Apr 16, 1998 at 06:36:28PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Marcus" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Marcus> Wow, I feel a document of high value and quality coming > Marcus> up. This is my personal wishlist, as I'm truely an > Marcus> unexperienced programmer:

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-17 Thread Philip Hands
> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I shall have to think about how far do we go, and how to limit > > the scope of this document. I do not think we can cover secure > > programming, portable programming, introduction to common softeware > > tools, historic bugs, I/O progra

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-17 Thread Rob Browning
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I shall have to think about how far do we go, and how to limit > the scope of this document. I do not think we can cover secure > programming, portable programming, introduction to common softeware > tools, historic bugs, I/O programming, and

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Marcus" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Marcus> Wow, I feel a document of high value and quality coming Marcus> up. This is my personal wishlist, as I'm truely an Marcus> unexperienced programmer: [SNIP] Whooee, that's some list. I think we do want to think

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-16 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Jackson wrote: [snip] > I'm beginning think we should split off the `standard programming > requirements' that aren't Debian-specific into a separate manual. We > could call it `Some specific issues for correct programming' or > something. [snip] > > Does anyone want to

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 02:52:59PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > >>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ian> Does anyone want to maintain this manual ? I take it from > Ian> Christian's posting that he doesn't. > > I would be interested in (co-?) maintaining this

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output"): > >>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ian> Does anyone want to maintain this manual ? I take it from > Ian> Christian's posting that he doesn&

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> Does anyone want to maintain this manual ? I take it from Ian> Christian's posting that he doesn't. I would be interested in (co-?) maintaining this manual, with help from the list in determining what should or should not go in

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Christian Schwarz writes ("Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output"): ... > There are some maintainers (including you) who always shout `this should > be documented in policy'. If we would document everything in policy, I > would be too busy with getting low

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-14 Thread Yann Dirson
Christian Schwarz writes: > I don't think this is a topic which belongs to the policy manual. (For > example, the policy manual doesn't include a statement like `dereferencing > NULL pointers is evil' either.) > > If we had a `Debian Programmer's Manual', this could go there--but since > w

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-11 Thread James Troup
Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 11 Apr 1998, James Troup wrote: > > > Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > I don't think this is a topic which belongs to the policy > > > manual. (For example, the policy manual doesn't include a statement > > > like `derefer

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 11 Apr 1998, James Troup wrote: > Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I don't think this is a topic which belongs to the policy > > manual. (For example, the policy manual doesn't include a statement > > like `dereferencing NULL pointers is evil' either.) > > Policy includes p

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-11 Thread James Troup
Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't think this is a topic which belongs to the policy > manual. (For example, the policy manual doesn't include a statement > like `dereferencing NULL pointers is evil' either.) Policy includes plenty of examples of policies which potentially re

Re: Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-04-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
(Sorry for the late reply.) On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Yann Dirson wrote: > It appears that some programs in our distribution (see logs for bug > #17361 or #19166 for known examples) are trying to parse other's > output, without ensuring a specific locale. > > Such a behaviour can cause obscure failur

Locales and Programs parsing other's output

1998-03-09 Thread Yann Dirson
It appears that some programs in our distribution (see logs for bug #17361 or #19166 for known examples) are trying to parse other's output, without ensuring a specific locale. Such a behaviour can cause obscure failures (eg. dpkg-parsechangelog in #17361), or even erroneous output (the 'isnative