Re: Debian Policy 4.7.1.0 and program names

2025-02-26 Thread Josh Triplett
Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > Nevertheless I think the generic text is a good idea. After all, > what good is having programs with the same name in /usr/bin and > /usr/games. Agreed. Program name conflicts are a problem, whether between /usr/bin and /usr/sbin, or between /usr/bin and /usr/games. >

Re: Debian Policy 4.7.1.0 and program names

2025-02-25 Thread Helmut Grohne
Hi Sean, I'm not subscribed, so please Cc me in replies. On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 06:37:19PM +0800, Sean Whitton wrote: > On Thu 20 Feb 2025 at 11:13am +01, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > What about existing packages with the same program name? > > > > For instance, > > > > https://packages.debian.

Re: Debian Policy 4.7.1.0 and program names

2025-02-25 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi Sean, hi everyone! Am 25.02.25 um 13:43 schrieb Chris Hofstaedtler: Nevertheless I think the generic text is a good idea. After all, what good is having programs with the same name in /usr/bin and /usr/games. For completeness sake I want to mention that we discussed this issue on #debian-

Re: Debian Policy 4.7.1.0 and program names

2025-02-25 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Bill Allombert [250225 14:26]: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 01:11:51PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > I would propose the following: > > > > 1) for trixie, recognise that this is not an RC bug or anything. > > > > 2) for forky, try to merge /usr/games into /usr/bin. > > What is the rationa

Re: Re: Debian Policy 4.7.1.0 and program names

2025-02-25 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 01:11:51PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > Hi, > > > Thanks for the raising this, Vincent, and for the analysis, > > Michael. > > > It sounds like we might need an exception for /usr/games. > > I want to say that /usr/games was not on my radar when I suggested > the po

Re: Re: Debian Policy 4.7.1.0 and program names

2025-02-25 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 at 13:11:51 +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > I think (again without having checked) FHS previously had a strong > opinion on /usr/games, but no longer does. In FHS 3.0, having > /usr/games is optional. This has been discussed previously (probably several times), including htt

Re: Debian Policy 4.7.1.0 and program names

2025-02-25 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
[resending to everyone] Hi, * Sean Whitton [250225 13:15]: > Thanks for the raising this, Vincent, and for the analysis, > Michael. > It sounds like we might need an exception for /usr/games. I want to say that /usr/games was not on my radar when I suggested the policy change. I think (but did

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2025-02-25 Thread Jochen Sprickerhof
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Re: Re: Debian Policy 4.7.1.0 and program names

2025-02-25 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
Hi, > Thanks for the raising this, Vincent, and for the analysis, > Michael. > It sounds like we might need an exception for /usr/games. I want to say that /usr/games was not on my radar when I suggested the policy change. I think (but did not check the history now) that the initial point was le

Re: Debian Policy 4.7.1.0 and program names

2025-02-25 Thread Sean Whitton
[changing mailing list] Hello, On Thu 20 Feb 2025 at 11:13am +01, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > What about existing packages with the same program name? > > For instance, > > https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/lam4-dev/filelist has > /usr/bin/hcc > > and > > https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/u