On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Bill Allombert wrote:
> Debian menu is supported by much more window managers than the XDG menu draft.
This issue is addressed by the xdg-menu system from Arch Linux.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xdg-menu
For the awesome window manager there is also a s
On Tuesday 25 February 2014 23:40:14 Bill Allombert wrote:
[snip]
> I do not believe Debian should favor desktop environment over lightweight
> window managers, especially since Debian users are more likely than other
> to favor use lightweight environments.
If you are going to do that statement,
On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 02:33:20PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Furthermore, I think the idea of an application "belonging" to one system or
> the other is misplaced. The purpose of both the original menu system and
> the freedesktop standard is to give users consistent, menu-driven access to
>
On 10/01/14 03:14, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote:
> WRT the current FDO wording, I like it.
>
> All packages that provide applications that need not be passed any
> special command line arguments for normal operation should register
> a menu entry for those applications
There is a sl
On Wednesday 08 January 2014 11:31:07 Charles Plessy wrote:
[snip]
> Hi Lisandro,
>
> thanks for your answer. Input from all the parties is critical.
>
> in my point of view, the Policy has been used to bully the maintainers of
> FreeDesktop-compliant applications and desktop environments, and
Hi,
Charles Plessy wrote:
> please, I would like to decouple two issues.
>
> - Issue 1: the Debian menu is superseded in major destkotop environments, and
>the Policy should recognise that the Debian menu is not the lead mechanism
>for managing menus in Debian anymore. Unfortutately we
Le Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 01:15:16PM -0800, Jonathan Nieder a écrit :
>
> Alas, now that completeness is eroding and I don't see much reason to
> recommend in policy to continue to add entries, unless we have clear
> advice about when packagers should include an entry in it and when
> they should ad
Le Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 01:15:16PM -0800, Jonathan Nieder a écrit :
>
> Alas, now that completeness is eroding and I don't see much reason to
> recommend in policy to continue to add entries, unless we have clear
> advice about when packagers should include an entry in it and when
> they should ad
Charles Plessy wrote:
> On the other hand, it is the spirit of Debian to accept low-maintenance
> patches
> (in that case, menu entries) when it can help other projects even if one does
> not care for it. In that sense, if the Debian Menu has an active user base,
> it
> would be counter-product
Le Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 11:09:55PM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer a
écrit :
> On Wednesday 08 January 2014 08:33:31 Charles Plessy wrote:
> > No comment from the GNOME and KDE teams ? What do you think of the
> > corrections that I proposed below, and of the patch in general ?
>
> No
On Tuesday 07 January 2014 23:09:55 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 January 2014 08:33:31 Charles Plessy wrote:
> > No comment from the GNOME and KDE teams ? What do you think of the
> > corrections that I proposed below, and of the patch in general ?
>
> Not to be ta
On Wednesday 08 January 2014 08:33:31 Charles Plessy wrote:
> No comment from the GNOME and KDE teams ? What do you think of the
> corrections that I proposed below, and of the patch in general ?
Not to be taken as "KDE team" reply, but here's my opinion.
On Sunday 05 January 2014 14:53:12 Charl
No comment from the GNOME and KDE teams ? What do you think of the corrections
that I proposed below, and of the patch in general ?
Cheers,
-- Charles
Le Mon, Jan 06, 2014 at 08:40:33AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
> Hi Steve, Jonathan, and Josselin,
>
> thanks to the two first of you for y
Hi Steve, Jonathan, and Josselin,
thanks to the two first of you for your comments. Josselin, there is a
question for you below.
About the lack of guidance, I think that it is a weakness of my wording, where
for instance I used "applications" in one case and "programs" in the other
case, but did
Hi,
Steve Langasek wrote:
> I believe we are at the point that we should be recommending a preference
> for the fdo MIME interfaces
Yep, and menus, too.
Do we have clear advice about
(1) how to write a menu entry for my console app (or niche graphical
app) without cluttering the menus us
On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 02:53:12PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> 9.6. Menus
> --
> Two menu systems are used in Debian: the _FreeDesktop menu_ and the
> 1 _Debian menu system_. Packages shipping applications that belong to
> one or both menu systems should provide the necess
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On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 03:00:05PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Hi Charles,
> +
> + The Debian menu system
> +
> +
> + The Debian menu unifies the menu systems of window managers. In
> + some desktop environments
On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 02:53:12PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Based on Josselin's contribution and the comments of Russ, I have written
> a patch for the Debian Policy, that documents the use of the FreeDesktop
> standards for the use of Desktop menus and media types (MIME).
Tha
Le Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 02:53:12PM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
>
> patch attached.
Oops, here it is attached for real. Sorry for the noise !
--
Charles
diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml
index dad8d23..1f0a006 100644
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+++ b/policy.sgml
@@ -8054,81 +8054,224 @@ Reloadin
Dear all,
Based on Josselin's contribution and the comments of Russ, I have written
a patch for the Debian Policy, that documents the use of the FreeDesktop
standards for the use of Desktop menus and media types (MIME).
First of all, about the core of Sune's request to “soften the the wording
rec
[dropping #727708 as it is getting off-topic]
Le Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 12:22:44PM +, Ian Jackson a écrit :
>
> Our menu arrangements have been unsatisfactory for some time and I for
> one would certainly be open to change. Now is probably not the right
> time for this, but maybe after we've d
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