Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2017-08-01 Thread David Bremner
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 04:51:51PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > I'm not sure why Jonathan thinks his patch is a strawman. It addresses > the main issue of this bug. I don't think the explanation of what an > upstream contact is needs to be relegated to a footnote. So I am > seeking seconds for t

Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2017-07-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Sean Whitton writes: > I'm not sure why Jonathan thinks his patch is a strawman. It addresses > the main issue of this bug. I don't think the explanation of what an > upstream contact is needs to be relegated to a footnote. So I am > seeking seconds for the following patch, which uses Jonathan

Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2017-07-14 Thread Sean Whitton
I would like to see this bug fixed because there can be no doubt that the 'original' in "original authors" is ambiguous. On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 07:50:41PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Here's a strawman illustrating what I think the sentence meant to say. > [...] I'm not sure why Jonathan thin

Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2012-06-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Bill Allombert wrote: > Russ Allbery wrote: > > Jonathan Nieder writes: > > > Charles Plessy wrote: > > >> My personal opinion is that it is best to focus the Debian copyright file > > >> on the goal of respecting licenses and the copyright law, and to leave > > >> to the upstream documentation the

Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2012-06-28 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 01:50:32AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Jonathan Nieder writes: > > Charles Plessy wrote: > > >> My personal opinion is that it is best to focus the Debian copyright file > >> on the goal of respecting licenses and the copyright law, and to leave > >> to the upstream docum

Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2012-06-28 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Bart Martens wrote: > Some readers may argue that an "upstream contact" may not be an "author" if > he/she maintains the upstream software only by accepting patches created by > others. If so, won't that be a problem everywhere else in policy that refers to upstream authors? For example in secti

Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2012-06-27 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 07:50:41PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Here's a strawman illustrating what I think the sentence meant to say. > > diff --git i/policy.sgml w/policy.sgml > index 52dbb26a..adb0c1c4 100644 > --- i/policy.sgml > +++ w/policy.sgml > @@ -9873,8 +9873,15 @@ END-INFO-DIR-ENTRY

Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2012-06-27 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Russ Allbery wrote: > Policy 12.5 says: > > In addition, the copyright file must say where the upstream sources > (if any) were obtained, and should name the original authors. > > The last part is not at all clear. Prior to a recent conversation on > debian-mentors, I had always assumed t

Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2012-06-23 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Russ Allbery wrote: > > Would one list bug-gnu-ut...@gnu.org? That's the most useful contact > > point (and we have a copyright-format field for that), but it's not in any > > real sense the "author." > > Sure it is --- it's the contact point for the

Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2012-06-23 Thread Bart Martens
Hi Russ, For completeness, since I was involved in the initial debate, here's my opinion on this bug: I would welcome the removal of "should name the original authors". I have currently no strong opinion on the other side-aspects I've read in the comments so far. Regards, Bart Martens -

Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2012-06-23 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 00:39:31 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Policy 12.5 says: > > In addition, the copyright file must say where the upstream sources > (if any) were obtained, and should name the original authors. > > The last part is not at all clear. Prior to a recent conversation on >

Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2012-06-23 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Russ Allbery wrote: > Would one list bug-gnu-ut...@gnu.org? That's the most useful contact > point (and we have a copyright-format field for that), but it's not in any > real sense the "author." Sure it is --- it's the contact point for the people who create the code that goes into the upstream

Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2012-06-23 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Charles Plessy wrote: > Nevertheless, listing the original authors does not give an accurate > information about who currently develops a program, and who to contact. If "original" means "upstream of Debian" (i.e., "where does this code originate from?"), then it gives exactly that. As you might

Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2012-06-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonathan Nieder writes: > Charles Plessy wrote: >> My personal opinion is that it is best to focus the Debian copyright file >> on the goal of respecting licenses and the copyright law, and to leave >> to the upstream documentation the difficult task of stating who is author >> and who is not. >

Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2012-06-23 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 03:38:05AM -0500, Jonathan Nieder a écrit : > > Just like naming the location from which the upstream source code was > downloaded is useful, giving contact information (at least a name, > mailing list, or web forum) for the upstream maintainer is useful, no? Hi, the prob

Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2012-06-23 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Charles Plessy wrote: > My personal opinion is that it is best to focus the Debian copyright file > on the goal of respecting licenses and the copyright law, and to leave > to the upstream documentation the difficult task of stating who is author > and who is not. Just like naming the location fr

Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2012-06-23 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 12:39:31AM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : > > Policy 12.5 says: > > In addition, the copyright file must say where the upstream sources > (if any) were obtained, and should name the original authors. Dear all, given that 1) New packages that do not name the orig

Bug#678607: debian-policy: "original authors" in 12.5 is unclear

2012-06-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Package: debian-policy Severity: normal Policy 12.5 says: In addition, the copyright file must say where the upstream sources (if any) were obtained, and should name the original authors. The last part is not at all clear. Prior to a recent conversation on debian-mentors, I had always a