Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-04-08 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> Looking for seconds. I'll give you 60 if you just wait me a minute... er.. I mean.. seconded.

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-04-06 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 02:39:07PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > I modify my proposal so that it reads as follows: > >The easy way to achieve this behavior is to make the configuration >file a conffile. This is appropriate only if it is possible to distribute a >default version that wi

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-04-06 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 02:39:07PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > I modify my proposal so that it reads as follows: > >The easy way to achieve this behavior is to make the configuration >file a conffile. This is appropriate only if it is possible to distribute a >default version that wi

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-04-06 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 10:36:04AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > >file a conffile. This is only appropriate if it is possible to > > distribute a > [...] > > It would be more grammatical to say "appropriate only" rather than "only > appropriate",

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-04-06 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 10:36:04AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > Final rewording: > > I propose that we modify paragraph in Policy 4.7.3 by adding the "only" > word, so that it reads as follows: > >The easy way to achieve this behavior is to make the configuration >file a conffile. This i

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-04-06 Thread Santiago Vila
Final rewording: I propose that we modify paragraph in Policy 4.7.3 by adding the "only" word, so that it reads as follows: The easy way to achieve this behavior is to make the configuration file a conffile. This is only appropriate if it is possible to distribute a default version that

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-04-03 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 11:45:09AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > How about we add `(only)', to have it read > > This is appropriate (only) if it is possible to distribute a > > default version that will work for most installations, [...] > > ? > > I like this idea. > > How about we add `only'

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-04-03 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Ian Jackson wrote: > Santiago Vila writes ("Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using > conffiles."): > > The problem I see is that the paragraph is worded in positive sense: > > > > "This is appropriate if it is possible t

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-04-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Santiago> \begin{proposal} Do not initialize a database by using the Santiago> conffile mechanism, unless the package containing the Santiago> database provides it `complete' and it is usually not Santiago> updated by other packages (ex

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-04-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Santiago Vila writes ("Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles."): > The problem I see is that the paragraph is worded in positive sense: > > "This is appropriate if it is possible to distribute a > default version that will work for most install

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-30 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Steve Greenland wrote: > It's already in violation of policy. From section 4.7.3: > > "The other way to do it is to via the maintainer scripts. In this case, > the configuration file must not be listed as a conffile and must not be > part of the package distribution." > [...]

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-30 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> The following proposal tries to address cases like Bug #34294. > > \begin{proposal} > Do not initialize a text database by using the conffile mechanism. > \end{proposal} > > Rationale: We should try to reduce prompting to a minimum during upgrades. > 99,999% users will always say "No" to dpkg p

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-29 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Steve Greenland wrote: > On 29-Mar-00, 10:32 (CST), Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > : > > Perhaps that's because (Slink) policy says: > > > > 4.7. Configuration files > > > > > > Any configuration files created or used by your package should reside >

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-29 Thread Steve Greenland
On 29-Mar-00, 10:32 (CST), Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps that's because (Slink) policy says: > > 4.7. Configuration files > > > Any configuration files created or used by your package should reside > in `/etc'. If there are several you

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-29 Thread Steve Greenland
On 29-Mar-00, 08:40 (CST), Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > In particular, > > given the update-mime program, /etc/mailcap should obviously not be a > > conffile. And as it is, the maintainer should change that -- but > > changing policy isn

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-29 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Santiago Vila wrote: > I also think this proposal should not be needed, but considering that > nobody managed so far to convince the mime-support maintainer that > /etc/mailcap being a conffile is really bad, it seems it is. Perhaps that's because (Slink) policy says: 4.7. Configuration files -

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-29 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 02:47:10PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 02:10:54PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > \begin{proposal} > > > Do not initialize a text database by using the conffile mechanism. > > > \end{proposal} > >

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-29 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Julian Gilbey wrote: > I think this proposal is silly: for something like the cases you > mention, it is obvious that they should not be conffiles, but should > be created by the postinst if they do not already exist. It would > clearly be very stupid for these to be conffile

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-29 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 02:47:10PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > > \begin{proposal} > > > > Do not initialize a text database by using the conffile mechanism. > > > > \end{proposal} > > > What is a `text database' ? That term seems very unclear to me

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-29 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 02:47:10PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > \begin{proposal} > > > Do not initialize a text database by using the conffile mechanism. > > > \end{proposal} > > What is a `text database' ? That term seems very unclear to me; but > > based on the bug report I'd certainly be ha

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-29 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 02:10:54PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > \begin{proposal} > > Do not initialize a text database by using the conffile mechanism. > > \end{proposal} > > What is a `text database' ? That term seems very unclear to me; but > based

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-29 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 02:10:54PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > \begin{proposal} > Do not initialize a text database by using the conffile mechanism. > \end{proposal} What is a `text database' ? That term seems very unclear to me; but based on the bug report I'd certainly be happy to second somet

Bug#61308: [PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-29 Thread Santiago Vila
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.1.1.1 Severity: wishlist The following proposal tries to address cases like Bug #34294. \begin{proposal} Do not initialize a text database by using the conffile mechanism. \end{proposal} Rationale: We should try to reduce prompting to a minimum during upgrades.