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I've reviewed the entire discussion in this bug, and I don't believe there
is a problem here other than possibly confusing or incomplete
documentation of the workflow involved in Debian. Let me recap to ensure
that I understood the problem report and then try to explain why I don't
believe this bu
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 02:58:39PM +0100, José Luis González wrote:
> It would only if the override facility was available to the users. And
> in that case it would suffice to update the severity descriptions so
> that a RC could be filed since, IMHO, a bug that is causing a RC bug
> should be RC.
On Sun, 28 Dec 2008, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> The reason why I'm reporting it here is that such a tool would also
> enable to address needs such as the reported one: wishlist bug
> report, marked with some RC-severity in the override.
If a bug is RC, the RMs have the authority to make it Severi
On Sun, 28 Dec 2008, José Luis González wrote:
> The bug is about the Manual, not the policy package. The
> debian-policy package wouldn't "[make] unrelated software on the
> system (or the whole system) break," only the Manual. If the
> erroneous Manual was not yet in the package that severity wou
On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:06:15 +0100
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 04:11:35PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > The decision of whether a bug is release-critical or not is for the
> > release managers to make, using the various properties of the bug
> > (including but *not* limited
> From: Don Armstrong
> To: 509732-d...@bugs.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Bug#509732: Kalle's message #68
> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:53:34 -0800
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17)
>
> On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, José Luis González wrote:
> > And can another developer fi
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 04:11:35PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> The decision of whether a bug is release-critical or not is for the
> release managers to make, using the various properties of the bug
> (including but *not* limited to its severity) as input to that
> decision. They can, in fact, make
Your message dated Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:53:34 -0800
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and subject line Re: Bug#509732: Kalle's message #68
has caused the Debian Bug report #509732,
regarding Debian Policy doesn't include directive for filing RC bugs aga
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 02:57:25 -0800
Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, José Luis González wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:11:03 -0800
> > Don Armstrong wrote:
> > > It should be filed against debian-policy with the appropriate
> > > severity.
> >
> > What is the appropriate severity?
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, José Luis González wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:11:03 -0800
> Don Armstrong wrote:
> > It should be filed against debian-policy with the appropriate
> > severity.
>
> What is the appropriate severity?
Depends on the bug. I can't think of a non-packaging mistake in
debian-
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, José Luis González wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:46:36 -0800
> Don Armstrong wrote:
> > Whether we decide to release with bugs of serverity >= serious in
> > pseudopackages is a decision for the release managers, and the
> > information for them to make that decision can be
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:11:03 -0800
Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008, José Luis González wrote:
> > If you still don't understand, imagine that a text is mistakenly
> > introduced in the Policy and it causes a RC bug. How should this bug
> > about the Policy be reported? According to the
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:46:36 -0800
Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Dec 2008, José Luis González wrote:
> > If a problem is RC, it should be marked as RC. If the BTS manages
> > pseudopackages, a bug in a pseudopackage that is RC should be marked
> > as RC in the BTS.
>
> The BTS has nothing to
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008, José Luis González wrote:
> If you still don't understand, imagine that a text is mistakenly
> introduced in the Policy and it causes a RC bug. How should this bug
> about the Policy be reported? According to the Policy Manual:
It should be filed against debian-policy with the
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008, José Luis González wrote:
> If a problem is RC, it should be marked as RC. If the BTS manages
> pseudopackages, a bug in a pseudopackage that is RC should be marked
> as RC in the BTS.
The BTS has nothing to do with deciding whether particular bugs are
release critical or not.
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:29:58 +0200
Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> > Another bug should be filed on www.debian.org for this.
>
> I disagree. The Policy Manual very clearly states where the policy
> discussion is to take place. There is no need to separately state this
> anywhere in www.debian.org.
>From
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:43:33 +0200
Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> José Luis González writes:
> > Do you agree now?
>
> If you mean do I agree that you should file a bug against
> www.debian.org because it doesn't say anything specific about filing
> bugs against Debian Policy,
No. I mean "a bug should
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:05:17 -0800
Russ Allbery wrote:
> José Luis González writes:
>
> > Package: general
> > Severity: important
> >
[snip removed]
> >
> > I am filing this bug so that this is resolved. According to the
> > description in that file (bug-maint-info.txt) this bug isn't RC as we
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:05:15 +0200 Kalle wrote:
> I think what José is reporting is that in his opinion the BTS (and
> actually all pseudopackages available in the BTS) should be considered
> a part of the release and there should be Policy instructions as to
> how the BTS should work
Only with r
José Luis González writes:
> I am sorry but debian-policy isn't featured in
> http://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages
That's because it is a real package. Also, you could have asked on the
debian-policy mailing list.
> If the right place to file bugs against the Policy is the debian-policy
>
José Luis González writes:
> Do you agree now?
If you mean do I agree that you should file a bug against
www.debian.org because it doesn't say anything specific about filing
bugs against Debian Policy, then no, I disagree. Any Debian Developer
(or at the very least, every package maintainer) shou
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José Luis González writes:
> Package: general
> Severity: important
>
> The Debian Policy Manual doesn't feature the Debian Bug Tracking
> System. This makes it impossible to report a bug with RC severity in
> the Bug Tracking System that permits RC bugs to remain in Debian when
> the report is c
I think what José is reporting is that in his opinion the BTS (and
actually all pseudopackages available in the BTS) should be considered
a part of the release and there should be Policy instructions as to
how the BTS should work, so that there would be clear grounds as to
which bugs against the ps
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