Re: Bug#50832: PROPOSED] Clarify meaning of Essential: yes

1999-11-22 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Anthony Towns wrote: > You can kind-of enforce it. ``Hey, this package does stuff in its postinst, > get rid of the Essential tag, now.'' This is enforcable since it's already > the case, and what we've got so far works. I agree, essential packages by definition cannot stop

Bug#50832: PROPOSED] Clarify meaning of Essential: yes

1999-11-22 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 02:09:23PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Anthony Towns wrote: > > +Further, since these packages may be implicitly required by any > > +number of other packages, including dpkg itself, they must function > > +correctly even while unconfigured. > You

Bug#50832: PROPOSED] Clarify meaning of Essential: yes

1999-11-22 Thread Chris Waters
Anthony Towns writes: > bash is an Essential: yes package, and recently it was changed so that > /bin/sh was only there after the postinst was run. Which closed an RC bug, IIRC. Seems like a damned-if-you-do, damned- if-you-don't situation. > +Further, since these packages may be implicitl

Bug#50832: PROPOSED] Clarify meaning of Essential: yes

1999-11-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Anthony Towns wrote: > +Further, since these packages may be implicitly required by any > +number of other packages, including dpkg itself, they must function > +correctly even while unconfigured. You can't enforce this. At the very least there be an `as far as posisble' sta

Bug#50832: PROPOSED] Clarify meaning of Essential: yes

1999-11-21 Thread Joel Klecker
>> +Further, since these packages may be implicitly required by any >> +number of other packages, including dpkg itself, they must function >> +correctly even while unconfigured. > >Seconded. [ I don't have the original since I was cced on the bug submission, so procmail ate it for hav

Bug#50832: PROPOSED] Clarify meaning of Essential: yes

1999-11-21 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 12:49:02PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > From: Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... > +Further, since these packages may be implicitly required by any > +number of other packages, including dpkg itself, they must function > +correctly even while unconfigured. Se

Bug#50832: [PROPOSED] Clarify meaning of Essential: yes

1999-11-21 Thread Anthony Towns
Package: debian-policy Severity: wishlist First, some context: bash is an Essential: yes package, and recently it was changed so that /bin/sh was only there after the postinst was run. This works fine for apt, but breaks just about every other dselect method in existence. The following is Joel K