Bug#484656: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 07 juillet 2008 à 02:48 -0400, Daniel Dickinson a écrit : > And depends on the package maintainer being cooperative. Because there > is no debian policy on this if a package maintainer disagrees they > don't have to hide their menu entry. Yes, that’s probably the most important issue wi

Bug#484656: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-06 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 13:41:30 -0400 Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mikhail Gusarov wrote: > > fd.o menus are designed to allow distro-specific policy. It's the > > matter of Debian KDE/Gnome packaging/menu policy to get the proper > > subset of the packages in menu (e.g. moving Gnome/gtk app

Bug#484656: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-06 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 18:52:35 06.07.2008 UTC-04 when [EMAIL PROTECTED] did gyre and gimble: >> fd.o menus are designed to allow distro-specific policy. It's the >> matter of Debian KDE/Gnome packaging/menu policy to get the proper >> subset of the packages in menu (e.g. moving Gnome/gtk application

Bug#484656: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-06 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:13:30 +0700 Mikhail Gusarov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Twas brillig at 13:08:40 06.07.2008 UTC-04 when [EMAIL PROTECTED] did > gyre and gimble: > > JH> So, after sufficient time, the gnome menu will contain a random > JH> assortment of the menu items that also appear in

Re: Bug#484656: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Daniel Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Such a document could be developed in a way similar to how the proposed >> new copyright document is being developed, and then someone could >> implement Lintian checks based on it and the existing .desktop f

Re: Bug#484656: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:35:34 -0700 Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Such a document could be developed in a way similar to how the > proposed new copyright document is being developed, and then someone > could implement Lintian checks based on it and the existing .desktop > file checks an

Bug#484656: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If the Debian menu system replaces the .menu format by the .desktop > format for its files, I volunteer to work hard on helping the > transition. > > Using natively the .desktop format would suppress the need for > maintaining two files in parallel in m

Bug#484656: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-05 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:54:30 +0200 Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul Wise wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 4:15 PM, William Pitcock > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Honestly, policy really needs to be updated to use the XDG > >> standards menu spec, and every WM at this po

Re: Bug#484656: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-06-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 04:00:30 -0400, Daniel Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are the the top three desktops used in debian and > cover most users of desktops in debian. > They all use xdg .desktop-based menus as their main menu. > xdg .desktop-based menus are not covere

Bug#484656: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-06-17 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are the the top three desktops used in debian and cover most users of desktops in debian. They all use xdg .desktop-based menus as their main menu. xdg .desktop-based menus are not covered by policy. This means some maintainers refuse to use them (see bug #478954 and #478916