Bug#39830: PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-07-14 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Mon, Jun 28, 1999 at 04:53:26AM -0700, Kevin Dalley wrote: > Who reminds the volunteer that the man page needs to be updated each > time the primary documentation is updated? Unfortunately, as FSF has > found out, if the primary documentation is in texi (or sgml, or html), > there might be s

Re: Bug#39830: [PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-07-04 Thread Jim Lynch
> > Date:04 Jul 1999 12:26:55 +1000 > To: Roland Rosenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: debian-policy@lists.debian.org > From:Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Bug#39830: [PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks > >

Re: Bug#39830: [PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-07-04 Thread Martin Mitchell
Roland Rosenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But this doesn't solve the other problem: dpkg -L shows these symlinks > as real man pages. This is annoying at least for me... dpkg is not a documentation browser, it is a package manager. It really doesn't matter if dpkg -L shows symlinks or not,

Re: Bug#39830: [PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-07-04 Thread Martin Mitchell
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Roland> My intension was to get rid of these undocumented.7 symlinks, because > Roland> they are quite useless because of the following points: > > Roland> a) dpkg -L shows that there is a man page, but there is > only > Roland>this useles

Bug#39830: PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-28 Thread Ron
> Who reminds the volunteer that the man page needs to be updated each > time the primary documentation is updated? er.. whoever files the bug report that says the man page is out of date??

Bug#39830: PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-28 Thread Kevin Dalley
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Would it be too radical to suggest that the maintainer who > does not have the resources to write the man page at least > file a bug report to remind himself (and perhaps signal volunteer man > page writers) that the manual page is missing,

Re: Bug#39830: [PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-28 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 1999 at 12:06:53AM +0200, Roland Rosenfeld wrote: > > But this doesn't solve the other problem: dpkg -L shows these > > symlinks as real man pages. This is annoying at least for me... > But why on earth are you looking for manual pages

Re: Bug#39830: [PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Jun 28, 1999 at 12:06:53AM +0200, Roland Rosenfeld wrote: > But this doesn't solve the other problem: dpkg -L shows these symlinks > as real man pages. This is annoying at least for me... But why on earth are you looking for manual pages with dpkg -L? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex

Re: Bug#39830: [PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-27 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Steve Greenland wrote: > The advantage of undocumented(7) is all the info is (supposedly) in > one place: "There is no man page for this program, Correct. I personally prefer to get a simple message about this instead of reading the same undocumented(7) every time, but this i

Bug#39830: PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-25 Thread Chris Waters
Jim Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If it is decided to keep undocumented(7), howbout we make dpkg -L > report on symlinks to it? Riiight. We'll just file a bug against dpkg. That'll get some action! :-) Anyway, that doesn't address the issue of people who seem to think their job is done

Re: Bug#39830: [PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-25 Thread Jim Lynch
Hi Roland, *: If it is decided to keep undocumented(7), howbout we make dpkg -L report on symlinks to it? -Jim

Bug#39830: PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-24 Thread Ron
> Would it be too radical to suggest that the maintainer who > does not have the resources to write the man page at least > file a bug report to remind himself (and perhaps signal volunteer man > page writers) that the manual page is missing, and that he/she is > aware of the bug? Thi

Bug#39830: PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-23 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jun 23, 1999 at 03:11:17PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Would it be too radical to suggest that the maintainer who > does not have the resources to write the man page at least > file a bug report to remind himself (and perhaps signal volunteer man > page writers) that the man

Bug#39830: PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Marc" == Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Marc> On 23 Jun 1999 01:57:45 -0500, you wrote: >> The bug reports are not the important part. Lack of a man page >> is grounds for a bug report, the man page is to prevent gazillions of >> identical reports. Marc> In that case, the link

Re: Bug#39830: [PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-23 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > And I get mad if I do man binary and I get nothing, after a > long time searching. I don't see no real the difference between "No manual entry for foo" and the contents of undocumented(7). Both tell me that there is no man page, but the for

Re: Bug#39830: [PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-23 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Christoph> Bug information belongs in the bug tracking system. If > Christoph> someone can manually set up a link then it would not be > Christoph> much of an additional effort to put up a manpage with > Christoph> some useful information. >

Re: Bug#39830: [PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-23 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Wed, Jun 23, 1999 at 12:17:59PM +, Marc Haber wrote: > In that case, the link to undocumented(7) should only be allowed if > there actually is a bug in existance. That is the current situation. "This manpage claims that the lack of a manpage has been reported as a bug, so you may only do t

Re: Bug#39830: [PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-23 Thread Marc Haber
On 23 Jun 1999 01:57:45 -0500, you wrote: >The bug reports are not the important part. Lack of a man page > is grounds for a bug report, the man page is to prevent gazillions of > identical reports. In that case, the link to undocumented(7) should only be allowed if there actually is a bug

Re: Bug#39830: [PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Roland" == Roland Rosenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Roland> My intension was to get rid of these undocumented.7 symlinks, because Roland> they are quite useless because of the following points: Roland> a) dpkg -L shows that there is a man page, but there is only Roland>this u

Re: Bug#39830: [PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-22 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > How about: > > -- > If no manual page is available for a particular program, utility > or function, this is a bug in the package. Until this is > rectified, a

Bug#39830: PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-21 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Jun 21, Roland Rosenfeld wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Chris Lawrence wrote: > > > I would be willing to support this proposal with the following > > additional sentence included: > > > > "It is not very hard to write a manual page; see the example manual > > page provided by dh_make for a tem

Bug#39830: PROPOSED]: get rid of undocumented(7) symlinks

1999-06-21 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Chris Lawrence wrote: > I would be willing to support this proposal with the following > additional sentence included: > > "It is not very hard to write a manual page; see the example manual > page provided by dh_make for a template." I fully agree with the first part of thi