Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-09-06 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Monday 05 September 2005 17:04, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 04:28:03PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) > > (actually the distinction between 'multi-user without network' and > > 'multi-user with network' is more interesting to me: booting a laptop > > without netwerk eas

Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-09-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 04:28:03PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > On Friday 02 September 2005 19:35, Bill Allombert wrote: > > Yes, it works while the RH/MDK/SuSE implementation does not. > > On Debian at least you do not need to mess with /etc/inittab each time > > you install/remove a

Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-09-05 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Friday 02 September 2005 19:35, Bill Allombert wrote: > Yes, it works while the RH/MDK/SuSE implementation does not. > On Debian at least you do not need to mess with /etc/inittab each time > you install/remove a display manager. > > How do you plan to fix that while keeping the admin free to ch

Re: Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-09-03 Thread Mark Baker
cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: - It shouldn't be to hard to convert a system over to LSB-runlevels if the runlevels and initscripts haven't been changed. For years I couldn't see the point in different run-levels, for exactly the reasons others have given on this thread - it's easier t

Re: Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-09-02 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:45:47AM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > On Thursday 01 September 2005 18:26, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:03:27PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) > wrote: > > > but is there really any good reason to have the default run-level > > >

Re: Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-09-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 05:02:10PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > On Friday 02 September 2005 14:58, Wouter Verhelst wrote: [...] > > * We won't be able to change them on already running systems > > automatically: there are so many initscripts that it's very likely at > > least one

Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-09-02 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:03:27PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > On Monday 29 August 2005 02:42, Brendan O'Dea wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 04:09:46AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > > Debian doesn't enforce a policy on the multi-user run-levels (2-5), this > > is the decision of th

Re: Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-09-02 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Friday 02 September 2005 14:58, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:45:47AM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > > On Thursday 01 September 2005 18:26, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:03:27PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) > > Given that changin

Re: Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-09-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:45:47AM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > On Thursday 01 September 2005 18:26, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:03:27PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) > wrote: > > > but is there really any good reason to have the default run-level > > >

Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-09-02 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Friday 02 September 2005 03:21, Brendan O'Dea wrote: > Yes, a technical one. Given that the recommended way to call > update-rc.d is currently using the argument "defaults", achiving the > granularity described in to document above would require modifying all > packages calling update-rc.d . t

Re: Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-09-02 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Thursday 01 September 2005 18:26, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:03:27PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > > but is there really any good reason to have the default run-level > > states differ from the LSB defined init-level states [1]? > > Is there any good reason

Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-09-01 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:03:27PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: >On Monday 29 August 2005 02:42, Brendan O'Dea wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 04:09:46AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: >> Debian doesn't enforce a policy on the multi-user run-levels (2-5), this >> is the decision of the lo

Re: Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-09-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:03:27PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > On Monday 29 August 2005 02:42, Brendan O'Dea wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 04:09:46AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > > Debian doesn't enforce a policy on the multi-user run-levels (2-5), this > > is the decision of th

Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-09-01 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Monday 29 August 2005 02:42, Brendan O'Dea wrote: > On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 04:09:46AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > Debian doesn't enforce a policy on the multi-user run-levels (2-5), this > is the decision of the local administrator. I agree that not enforcing a policy on run-levels is fine, t

Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-08-30 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 06:33:14AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > B> Debian doesn't enforce a policy on the multi-user run-levels (2-5), this > B> is the decision of the local administrator. > > OK, it wouldn't hurt to mention that fact then in the policy document, > just to make things clear. Or ma

Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-08-30 Thread Dan Jacobson
B> Debian doesn't enforce a policy on the multi-user run-levels (2-5), this B> is the decision of the local administrator. OK, it wouldn't hurt to mention that fact then in the policy document, just to make things clear. Or maybe it would hurt. I don't know. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL P

Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-08-28 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 04:09:46AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: >One wants to know the exact definition of each of the Debian run levels. You're confusing Debian Policy with a user/administrators manual. It's not. >Well right at the top of 9.3.1 I would say what each run level is, >using one line

Bug#325234: debian-policy: mention if coincidence runlevels 2345 all same

2005-08-26 Thread Dan Jacobson
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.6.2.1 Severity: wishlist One wants to know the exact definition of each of the Debian run levels. We see 9.3. System run levels and `init.d' scripts 9.3.1. Introduction The `/etc/init.d' directory contains the scripts executed by `init' at boot time