Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Anthony Towns writes: > On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:02:51PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > Still, I'm loath to create extra rules that we don't need. In > > general, yes, *every* file should be readable, and it's appropriate to > > file bug reports for the Debian packages which needlessly

Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-11 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:02:51PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Still, I'm loath to create extra rules that we don't need. In > general, yes, *every* file should be readable, and it's appropriate to > file bug reports for the Debian packages which needlessly prevent > files from being read

Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Anthony Towns writes: > If you want to share nethack bones files, you put them in /var/games/nethack, > or similar, then share it. The problem with this strategy is that it requires administrators to keep track of which packages can share which directories, and this is in general hard to figure

Re: Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes: > There is no rule that /usr can always be safely mounted read-only in > FHS or the GNU Coding Standards. If it works for you, great, but by > no means would I advise relying on it. Blech, I was wrong here, for which I apologize. The FHS does con

Re: Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-11 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:06:37PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > While not being a nethack afficionado, I admin for people who are. Aren't > > bones levels variable, and hence should not be placed in /usr anyway? > > Certainly, I know that bon

Re: Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > While not being a nethack afficionado, I admin for people who are. Aren't > bones levels variable, and hence should not be placed in /usr anyway? > Certainly, I know that bones levels are created on the nethack machine, and > that machine's /usr is mo

Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-11 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 10:02:42PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > One such thing that can be shared, but which should also be secret, is > a nethack bones level file. That shouldn't go in /var, because it > *should* be shared normally by a group of cooperating machines. Portions of /var are

Re: Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-11 Thread Matthew Palmer
On 10 Nov 2002, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > One such thing that can be shared, but which should also be secret, is > a nethack bones level file. That shouldn't go in /var, because it > *should* be shared normally by a group of cooperating machines. (The > whole point of nethack bones files is

Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-11 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:26:31AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > /usr/share is not appropriate for that, as it is the OS's playground > > (and I can't see any use for the OS installing secrets there). > > For site-specific secrets /usr/local/share is a better choice. > "root users" is not

Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Anthony Towns writes: > On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:26:31AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > > /usr/share is not appropriate for that, as it is the OS's playground > > > (and I can't see any use for the OS installing secrets there). > > > For site-specific secrets /usr/local/share is a bett

Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Robert Bihlmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes: > > > This is incorrect. /usr/share is intended to be shared between > > cooperating systems, but cooperating systems' root users might well > > have secrets that they want to conveniently share. > >

Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-10 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes: > This is incorrect. /usr/share is intended to be shared between > cooperating systems, but cooperating systems' root users might well > have secrets that they want to conveniently share. /usr/share is not appropriate for that, as it is the OS's p

Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Matthew Swift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Because files in /usr/share are expected to be shared, they should all > be world-readable. This is incorrect. /usr/share is intended to be shared between cooperating systems, but cooperating systems' root users might well have secrets that they want

Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 12:47:27PM +0700, Robert Lemmen wrote: > On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 02:26:24PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > Also, make a policy proposal that all files in /usr/share be > > world-readable on Debian systems. > > and create an according lintian check! The non-standard-fil

Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-04 Thread Matt Swift
- From: Fabien Niñoles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 11:34 AM To: Matthew Swift Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Debian Bug Tracking System Subject: Re: Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable I'm pretty sure this is only a two packages bugs: on

Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-03 Thread Fabien Niñoles
> "Matthew" == Matthew Swift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Matthew> On my system today, the following files in /usr/share are Matthew> not world-readable: Matthew> % find /usr/share -not -perm -o=r Matthew> /usr/share/doc/squid/examples/squid.conf Matthew> /usr/share/

Bug#167422: general: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-03 Thread Robert Lemmen
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 02:26:24PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Also, make a policy proposal that all files in /usr/share be > world-readable on Debian systems. > and create an according lintian check! robert