Re: Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-15 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 02:13:23AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > If these were ordinary log files of a running program > generating data, I may agree. > > But since we are down to gut feelings, a bunch of files are > generated by postinst, and they all reside in the same place. So

Re: Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Branden> On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 06:13:50PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >>"Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Branden> Well, according to the FHS, you shouldn't be putting variabel data in Branden> /us

Re: Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-15 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 06:13:50PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Branden> Well, according to the FHS, you shouldn't be putting variabel data > in > Branden> /usr at all: > > It is not variable data. It is static data; tha

Re: Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Branden> Well, according to the FHS, you shouldn't be putting variabel data in Branden> /usr at all: It is not variable data. It is static data; that does not change after installation. /usr/ is allowed to change when you ins

Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 01:57:43AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Branden> I don't have one any more specific than "somewhere under /var". > Branden> /var/log doesn't work if the byte-compiler isn't running as the root > Branden>

Re: Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Branden> I don't have one any more specific than "somewhere under /var". Branden> /var/log doesn't work if the byte-compiler isn't running as the root Branden> user or the adm group. Branden> *Does* the byte-compiler run as root?

Re: Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:17:48AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Branden> On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 08:10:02PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> You can decide not to log for _your_ package. I certainly am > >> going to continue

Re: Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Branden> On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 08:10:02PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> You can decide not to log for _your_ package. I certainly am >> going to continue to log the compilation for mine. Branden> Well, will you consider placing

Re: Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 08:10:02PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > You can decide not to log for _your_ package. I certainly am > going to continue to log the compilation for mine. Well, will you consider placing them in a more FHS-friendly location than /usr/share? :) -- G. Branden Rob

Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-10 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 09:15:09PM -0500, James R. Van Zandt wrote: > However, I think substituting > > LOG=`tempfile -m 644` > > would introduce a security bug. How? Surely tempfile still creates the file securely, even when the mode is other than 600? Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Re: Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Santiago> Manoj Srivastava wrote: Santiago> What I don't understand is why those .log files have to be >> created. >> >> Because it helps me in debugging problems users may have with >> my packages. Santiago> We usually turn off de

Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-09 Thread Santiago Vila
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Santiago> What I don't understand is why those .log files have to be > created. > > Because it helps me in debugging problems users may have with > my packages. We usually turn off debugging when we are confident that things work as they are expected to do. That's

Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Santiago> What I don't understand is why those .log files have to be created. Because it helps me in debugging problems users may have with my packages. Santiago> The example `install' script in debian-emacs-policy does Santi

Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-09 Thread Santiago Vila
James R. Van Zandt wrote: > Matt Swift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ... > >In the source package, the file ./debian/PVER-elisp.install.in > >contains the lines: > > > >ELCDIR=/usr/share/$FLAVOR/site-lisp/$PACKAGE > > [...] > >LOG=`tempfile` > > [...] > >$FLAVOR $BATCHFL

Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-08 Thread James R. Van Zandt
Matt Swift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... >In the source package, the file ./debian/PVER-elisp.install.in >contains the lines: > >ELCDIR=/usr/share/$FLAVOR/site-lisp/$PACKAGE > [...] >LOG=`tempfile` > [...] >$FLAVOR $BATCHFLAGS $PRELOADS $COMPILE >>$LOG 2>&1 >

Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-04 Thread Matt Swift
>> On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:30:02 -0500, Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: G> I'd suggest closing this bug and filing bugs against the individual G> packages. Perhaps a wishlist bug should be filed against lintian to G> check for this, too. In the case of the emacs add-on packag

Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-02 Thread Glenn Maynard
Steve's message was only sent to d-d, not this bug, so you might have missed it: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200211/msg00148.html > > Also, make a policy proposal that all files in /usr/share be > > world-readable on Debian systems. > > No need; see section 11.9, parag