Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2001-11-18 Thread Brian Mays
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Mays) writes: > > > I've learned that too. They also don't read the documentation in > > /usr/share/doc/. "Thomas Bushnell, BSG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> added: > And really, how could they? My *laptop* has 884 packages installed. > If I try "wc /usr/share/doc/*/README.Deb

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2001-11-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Mays) writes: > I've learned that too. They also don't read the documentation in > /usr/share/doc/. And really, how could they? My *laptop* has 884 packages installed. If I try "wc /usr/share/doc/*/README.Debian", that alone is: 4449 24692 168612 total To expect

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2001-11-17 Thread Brian Mays
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course you realize that users do not, in general, read the extended > descriptions of packages. > > This isn't your fault, just a bitter lesson I've learned over the past > few years. I've learned that too. They also don't read the documentation i

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2001-11-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 12:08:35PM -0500, Brian Mays wrote: > Of course, good documentation is probably the best way to handle all > of this. Adding a note in the description that xlibs is needed to run > cardinfo is probably the most useful thing that can be done for the > user. Of course you re

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2001-11-17 Thread Brian Mays
Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd be perfectly happy with a package that wanted some shared library > only recommending or suggesting that shared library, provided that a > wrapper script was included for the programs that did not function > without the shared library to provide a usefu

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2001-11-17 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Brian" == Brian Mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> My argument is as follows: Brian> Programs fail to run for all sorts of reasons and often do Brian> not give friendly error messages, help text, etc. Problems Brian> are not only caused by missing libraries, but also

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2001-11-17 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 09:09:28PM +0900, Taketoshi Sano wrote: > > 1) Ensure that no program is installed in a state in which it can fail > > due to missing components, whether they are shared libraries required > > by the program, missing data, or other programs that are used by the > > scripts o

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2001-11-17 Thread Taketoshi Sano
I prefer the 2nd position in the following issue. (BTW, I don't subscribe to debian-policy list currently, Just read this via newsgroup linux.debian.policy.) In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:10:11 +0100, on Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2001-11-14 Thread Brian Mays
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am requesting a ruling from the Technical Committee on the meaning > of "dependency" as used in the Policy Manual. I second this request. > My position is that shared library dependencies as determined by > dpkg-shlibdeps must always be delcared in

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a separate package

2001-11-14 Thread Branden Robinson
severity 119517 serious reassign 119517 tech-ctte,pcmcia-cs thanks I am requesting a ruling from the Technical Committee on the meaning of "dependency" as used in the Policy Manual. My position is that shared library dependencies as determined by dpkg-shlibdeps must always be delcared in a packag