Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a s eparate package

2001-11-18 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 01:02:39AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Branden Robinson writes ("Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to > move into a s eparate package"): > > Constitution 6.3.5: > [...] > > I have replied to Branden (CC the Committee list) separ

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a s eparate package

2001-11-18 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 01:02:41AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Branden Robinson writes ("Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to > move into a s eparate package"): > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 09:15:21PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > Nonsense. The

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a s eparate package

2001-11-17 Thread Ian Jackson
Branden Robinson writes ("Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a s eparate package"): > Constitution 6.3.5: [...] I have replied to Branden (CC the Committee list) separately. Please see my earlier comments about crossposting between debian-policy and debian-

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a s eparate package

2001-11-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 09:15:21PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Nonsense. The Technical Committee should make whatever specific or > general ruling it sees fit, according to the Constitution. Constitution 6.3.5: No detailed design work. The Technical Committee does not engage in design of ne

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a s eparate package

2001-11-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 12:24:20AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Why are ELF objects so special? Brian Mays and I have asked the Technical Committee for a ruling. It's good form to constrain the scope of that ruling as narrowly as is reasonable. > If we have a rule like this, why should it not apply

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a s eparate package

2001-11-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 12:24:20AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Branden Robinson wrote: > > I think both should be forbidden. > > ELF objects, minor or major, must declare shared library dependencies > > as Depends. > > ELF objects, minor or major, that link against non-free shared libraries > > must

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a s eparate package

2001-11-16 Thread Joey Hess
Branden Robinson wrote: > I think both should be forbidden. > > ELF objects, minor or major, must declare shared library dependencies > as Depends. > > ELF objects, minor or major, that link against non-free shared libraries > must not go into main. Why are ELF objects so special? If we have a r

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a s eparate package

2001-11-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 01:05:10AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > (a) The pcmcia-cs maintainer could choose to make `cardinfo' be a > script which checked whether the appropriate libraries were present > and otherwise produced a more helpful error message. That would satisfy me, as long as the packag

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a s eparate package

2001-11-14 Thread Ian Jackson
Branden Robinson writes ("Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a s eparate package"): ... > I think both should be forbidden. > > ELF objects, minor or major, must declare shared library dependencies > as Depends. This is a silly position. For ex

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a s eparate package

2001-11-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 03:14:24PM -0500, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > To the technical committee, if you rule that a package's minor binary's > libraries need not be declared as a Depends (I hope not), then please > address the same question with the added twist that the minor binary may > need a de

Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a s eparate package

2001-11-14 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Bug #119517 concerns the bundled little utility called cardinfo. I quote the maintainer: 'Since cardinfo does not contribute a "significant amount of functionality" to the package, this is not the appropriate level of dependency for the packages required to make cardinfo work.' Ironically, t