Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>It seems to me that debhelper seems to have its goal as
> helping novices build a package (note the name); and that is the
> expressed intent of the package. All through the documentation, the
> emphasis is on how to get a package built.
The intent is to build a
Hi,
>>"Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Joey> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Firstly, I would rather see something undergo more serious review,
>> and actually come from the point of plicy conformance rather than
>> from the point of helping people package packages when they do not
>> k
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Firstly, I would rather see something undergo more serious
> review, and actually come from the point of plicy conformance
> rather than from the point of helping people package packages when
> they do not know how to do so themselves.
>
> Looking at the /u
Hi,
>>"Craig" == Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Craig> Zed Pobre wrote:
>> packaging, it was Manoj who wrote me a short example script that
>> once I understood it got transcribed almost exactly into the
>> postinst file. And the next time I see that kind of problem, I'll
>> know what cod
Zed Pobre wrote:
> And here is where I'd like to start. Manoj has been gruff. He has
> been cynical. He has been, arguably, downright unfriendly at his worst.
> He's also been consistently helpful. Even when I was lurking and
> not contributing, I remember seeing consistent snippets of
Zed Pobre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You mean deb-make? I don't have a dh_make command on my system...
> Am I missing something?
I think this is a new tool that's built on debhelper. I'm not sure,
but it may actually be in the latest debhelper packages.
> Actually, just fixing up the do
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Heh. That takes care of one of my major objections to the
> helper packages. The opacity of the helpers was a major
> bugbear. Maybe it is time to install this and have another look.
I agree. I've come to realize that my strongest objection
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Joey> That's why all debhelper scripts have a -v option, and an
> Joey> environment variable, to make them generate a listing of every
> Joey> single command they run (and this is prominently marked in the
> Joey> example rules files for debhelper).
>
> Heh. That ta
Hi,
>>"Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Joey> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> I have exressed what I felt lacking in the scripts before. For
>> example, none of them seems to have a dry run option. so I can see
>> what is going on without actually doing anything.
Joey> All debhelper scri
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I have exressed what I felt lacking in the scripts before. For
> example, none of them seems to have a dry run option. so I can see
> what is going on without actually doing anything.
Interesting, I haven't read that objection from you before, but note:
--
Hi,
I think I'm going to be flamed for this ;-). *Still think I am
entitled to my opinions). In any case, whether people do or do not
use helper packages is their own decision. I reserve my right to my
opinion.
>>"Craig" == Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Craig> Manoj Srivast
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> This is old hat, and I think it should not be raked up again,
[usual stuff from Manoj - Christoph deleted]
> Alos, I was not asking for expertise, but mere competence. I
> know better than to ask for expertise. Competence should not be hard
> to achieve; and
The statement was reasonable in the context of Manoj's demand to a new
developer that he be an expert on shell scripts. No one is an expert on
everything and we need to combine our talents. Variety is good. Someone
might not know much about shell scripts but be an expert in C++. Debian can
have all
Hi,
This is old hat, and I think it should not be raked up again,
but:
>>"Christoph" == Christoph Lameter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Christoph> The statement was reasonable in the context of Manoj's
Christoph> demand to a new developer that he be an expert on shell
Christoph> scripts.
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I should apologize to the people who write helper scripts for
> my outburst; I regretted it as soon as I had sent it.
Christoph Lameter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Maybe we should also try to have developers who are up to date on the
>
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I should apologize to the people who write helper scripts for
> my outburst; I regretted it as soon as I had sent it.
>
> I have the deepest respect towards the authors, who are trying
> to do a very hard job.
Thanks.
Personally, I don't care if people u
Hi,
I should apologize to the people who write helper scripts for
my outburst; I regretted it as soon as I had sent it.
I have the deepest respect towards the authors, who are trying
to do a very hard job.
I should keep a closer rein on my temper. I still do not use
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