Re: Emdebian Policy

2011-08-08 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011 11:41:06 +0200 Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi Neil, > > applause, thanks & good luck to making grip official! :-) > just one tiny comment: > > On Sonntag, 7. August 2011, Neil Williams wrote: > > 9.8 Keyboard configuration - Note that many Emdebian

Emdebian Policy

2011-08-07 Thread Neil Williams
bian Policy with a set of footnotes? [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-embedded/2011/04/msg00013.html [1] http://wiki.debian.org/EmdebianPolicy/Background [2] http://wiki.debian.org/EmdebianPolicy [3] http://www.emdebian.org/grip/ [4] http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/emdebian-grip.html

Bug#589671: Required package set can be fully usable

2010-07-19 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:05:39 +0200 Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > Hi Neil, > > On moandei 19 July 2010, Neil Williams wrote: > > This sentence in Policy 2.5 is too prohibitive: > > "Systems with only the required packages are probably unusable, but > > they do have e

Bug#589671: Required package set can be fully usable

2010-07-19 Thread Neil Williams
uired packages and a selection of hand-picked packages from Priority: optional which are fully usable systems - within the expectations of what such a system can be expected to achieve, e.g. a NAS or mobile phone installation. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/07/msg00337.html

Re: DEP-4 TDebs - updated

2009-04-14 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:42:30 +0200 Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Neil Williams (14/04/2009): > > > > http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep4/#index9h2 > > > > > > You probably need to clarify in your DEP what “initial” means. > > > > This section covers part

Re: DEP-4 TDebs - updated

2009-04-14 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:10:16 +0200 Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Neil Williams (14/04/2009): > > > Any reason not to make that “sourceful uploads”? > > > > Well, the maintainer will be making the initial TDeb upload > > (effectively +t0) so the restriction doe

Re: DEP-4 TDebs - updated

2009-04-14 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:04:14 +0200 Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Neil Williams (14/04/2009): > > This is where the Draft TDeb Specification, created at the > > ftp-master/i18n meeting in Extremadura, will be developed and improved. > > Motivation > > > >1. U

Re: DEP-4 TDebs - updated

2009-04-14 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:29:17 +0200 Bill Allombert wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:49:53AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > If replying from the -policy list, please keep either me or -devel > > CC'd. I'm subscribed to both -devel and -i18n. Thanks. > > > &g

DEP-4 TDebs - updated

2009-04-14 Thread Neil Williams
he /usr/share/emdebian-tools/dh_gentdeb and /usr/share/emdebian-tools/dpkg-gentdeb test scripts. My git foo is very poor so if there are people willing and able to help with the git-ness problems, take a look at the repo and tell me *precisely* what commands I need to fix stuff. ;-) More on that on p

Re: Install-info transition, review time

2009-03-26 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:34:23 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 07:21:15AM +0000, Neil Williams wrote: > > > Also, is the new dpkg going to Pre-Depend: on this new install-info > > > package? > > > If not, what does this /usr/sbin/insta

Re: Install-info transition, review time

2009-03-26 Thread Neil Williams
ebian.org/debian-dpkg/2009/03/msg00019.html > > Given that install-info is codified in Policy, I think this plan needs to be > vetted via the policy process and include specific changes to the language > in Policy, prior to moving forward on implementation. There probably should have been

Bug#491055: allow debian/copyright to be compressed

2008-07-16 Thread Neil Williams
ht without debhelper, including generating it from LICENCE files and similar. > Having every package have the same name for the file seems like a better > situation than having to check which name to use. I'd agree that having the same filename is preferable. -- Neil Wil

Bug#436419: Policy or best practices for debug packages?

2008-07-07 Thread Neil Williams
ry > easy to google for. :-) What do we want to do? Combine apt-get install foo-dbg with apt-get source foo ? Isn't it up to the debugging tool to correlate one with the other, rather than the distro? -- Neil Williams = http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Should -dev packages providing .pc files depend on pkg-config?

2008-04-16 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 22:12 +0200, Jakob Bohm wrote: > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 04:12:45PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:23:51AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > > > > What about these clauses as a Policy amendment? > > > > &g

Re: Should -dev packages providing .pc files depend on pkg-config?

2008-04-16 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 17:23 +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: > First of all, I skipped a large part of this thread, so I'm sorry if > this has come up before. > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 03:53:03PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > > And by this definition, it is the package

Re: Should -dev packages providing .pc files depend on pkg-config?

2008-04-16 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 16:12 +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:23:51AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > > What about these clauses as a Policy amendment? > > > > 1. If a library *only supports the retrieval of FOO_LIBS and / or > > FOO_CFLAGS

Re: Should -dev packages providing .pc files depend on pkg-config?

2008-04-16 Thread Neil Williams
-Depends on pkg-config in the source package. Is that suitable as a Policy clause? (probably needs a few tweaks for clarity and examples in clause 1). It may well cause a few packages to depend or build-depend on pkg-config even though another dependency also requires it but duplication of depen

Re: collapse extra priority into optional and allow conflicts?

2007-12-06 Thread Neil Williams
separate issue that the gpe meta-package currently depends on gsoko that is extra but that's minor - I can drop the gsoko depends on the meta package without too much of a problem.) -- Neil Williams = http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Mandatory support for -nocheck in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS

2007-11-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 23:03:54 +0100 Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 08:08:03PM +0000, Neil Williams wrote: > > > What about: > > > > "Packages that run a test suite during the default build must support > > omitting the te

Re: Mandatory support for -nocheck in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS

2007-11-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:07:42 -0500 Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Neil Williams wrote: > > There needs to be some agreement on what nocheck or notest means and > > which one to use. For Emdebian needs, whichever name is used, the > > imperative is that setting

Mandatory support for -nocheck in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS

2007-11-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:35:00 +0100 Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 04:08:11PM +0000, Neil Williams wrote: > > Actually, Guillem has already filed the bug: 416450 > > [PROPOSAL] New option in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS to avoid running test-suites &

Bug#436419: Mandatory -dbg packages for shared libraries

2007-08-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 15:44:27 +0200 Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 07, 2007, Neil Williams wrote: > > i.e. the reverse sense - the dbg name should be forced to use the lib > > prefix where the only packages built from that source already use the > >

Bug#436419: Mandatory -dbg packages for shared libraries

2007-08-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 14:08:35 +0200 Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 07, 2007, Neil Williams wrote: > > The principle here is to make upstream development on Debian easier > > To be clear, the only part I'm not confortable about is forcing the dbg

Bug#436419: Mandatory -dbg packages for shared libraries

2007-08-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 11:55:54 +0200 Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2007, Neil Williams wrote: > > the -dbg (with SONAME) > [...] > > provide a binary package > > libra

Bug#436419: Mandatory -dbg packages for shared libraries

2007-08-07 Thread Neil Williams
glink section in the corresponding unstripped object." http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/serendipity/index.php?/archives/18-Mandatory-dbg-packages-for-libraries.html#comments Josh Triplett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 2007-04-22 19:48 -- Neil Williams = http://www.data-freedom.

Re: Current Policy change proposals

2007-08-06 Thread Neil Williams
e Policy maintainers. Have I missed a step in the request for -dbg packages for each shared library, previously discussed on debian-devel? http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/04/msg00663.html I don't mind creating a bug report - I'm just not sure if it is necessary. -- Neil Williams