Re: All services that require a restart from libc6 upgrade...

2000-10-29 Thread Greg Stark
Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > We need to find a way to not require the restarts. Perhaps the nss modules > > could provide the old nss functions as versioned 2.0 symbols? > > > > (Sigh, this would all go away if people just bumped sonames when they had > > to.) > > This isn't a

Re: All services that require a restart from libc6 upgrade...

2000-10-29 Thread Greg Stark
Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 04:23:43PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > > Ok, I'm tired of having to track all services that might need to be > > restarted after a libc6 upgrade. So here's what I am going to do. I want > > to require all packages that need thi

Re: : Question regarding actions to take on --purge of a package.

2000-09-25 Thread Greg Stark
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Personally (and I realize others do disagree), my feeling is: > > - Kerberos 4 is obsolete and should not be used anymore. MIT no longer > support it. There is only one mainstream application that still > requires Kerberos 4: AFS. It could be argued that A

Re: : Question regarding actions to take on --purge of a package.

2000-09-23 Thread Greg Stark
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Greg> Now a new version of foo comes out, and a new package libfoo2 > Greg> is released but it uses the same configuration file as > Greg> libfoo1. > > > *BZZZT*. Mistake. New package, new configuration file -- > the postinst should h

Re: A thought on urgency

2000-09-22 Thread Greg Stark
Anthony Towns writes: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 10:15:45PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > The idea we struck on was for each package to have a 'urgency serial > > number' which exists on the ring [0...N]. The difference in the priority > > serial numbers of any two packages indicates how urge

Re: : Question regarding actions to take on --purge of a package.

2000-09-22 Thread Greg Stark
This is an old thread that I have a new twist on. I just got bit by a purge that removed a file I really wouldn't have liked it to, but I think the packages involved were doing what they should have been doing according to current policy. I think there's a deficiency in our conception of file owne

Bug#54524: http_proxy and web clients.

2000-01-30 Thread Greg Stark
Please stick to the merits of the proposal and don't speculate about my motivations. My only intent here is to avoid stamping a faulty design with the debian seal of approval by putting it in our policy. Having options that are only available from environment variables and not from configuration

Re: missing FHS archives

2000-01-26 Thread Greg Stark
Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I really don't see the use.. if I follow your logic then /usr/lib should > be just libraries. Okay, but now I have a program that uses a couple > of bitmaps in its userinterface.. lets make /usr/libbitmap then! Actually it's /usr/include/X11/bitmap

Bug#54524: http_proxy and web clients.

2000-01-24 Thread Greg Stark
> > I don't think so - indeed policy says that packages shouldn't depend > > on environment variables for their correct behaviour(3.9). I don't > > disagree that http_proxy as an environment variable is common > > practice, but I do disagree strongly that this should be made policy - > > you'd hav

Bug#54968: Lintian, archive maintenance and and policy

2000-01-23 Thread Greg Stark
Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This would take the form of a `Known-Problems' field in the .changes > file. Initially this would be an X-C-Known-Problems so that old > versions of dpkg-dev can build packages; the archive script would > understand both. The syntax would be something l

Bug#54524: http_proxy and web clients.

2000-01-11 Thread Greg Stark
Nicolás Lichtmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You have a cost in being non-standard, and I don't think it is worth it > this time. What benefits would give us what you propose? The cost is greater than /etc/mailname or /etc/papersize ? Debian long ago decided not to worry about the issue of

Bug#54524: http_proxy and web clients.

2000-01-09 Thread Greg Stark
Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Jan 09, 2000 at 12:50:29AM -0300, Nicolas Lichtmaier wrote: > > Package: debian-policy > > > > This is already standard, but I think it should be into policy because I > > already saw some programs deviating from this expected behaviour. > > >

Re: policy summary

2000-01-09 Thread Greg Stark
Matthew Vernon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I still maintain that undocumented(7) serves a useful function (as my > objection said), but perhaps it should be reworded somewhat; maybe we > should encourage people to check the BTS and submit a bug report, or > simply "do submit this as a bug if th

Bug#53759: revision of the "to build with X support or not" policy

2000-01-05 Thread Greg Stark
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 01:39:34PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > I'm not going to second this proposal. > > > > I think that it misses the real issue in favor of a rhetorical position. > > I disagree. The rationale for this proposal was twofold: >

Re: Thoughts about src-dep implementation

1999-12-19 Thread Greg Stark
Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > debian/rules clean is already required to reverse the effects of the build. > > In theory, yes. But unless you audit the .diff.gz, it's not > necessarily obvious if this fails. In fact there are packages

Bug#28747: PROPOSED] GPL moved to /usr/share/common-licenses

1999-04-07 Thread Greg Stark
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 04:08:49PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > I'm now looking for seconds for this proposal. why?

Re: Debian runlevel policy?

1999-03-05 Thread Greg Stark
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I guess we should start a discussion as to what we want in the runlevels. > If there's anything that shouldn't be in at least one of the multi-user > runlevels, xdm is it. What else? The existing policy is that runlevels are for users to use to con

Reorganize debian documentation

1998-03-07 Thread Greg Stark
[Bcc'd to debian-devel so followups will go to debian-policy] I don't know if i'm the only one with this problem, but I can never find the debian docs when I want them. I can never remember which of the following the file I want is in: /usr/doc/debian /usr/doc/developers-referenc