sections forms the Debian GNU/Linux
SV> distribution.
SV> -
SV> I'm looking for seconds for this proposal.
Seconded.
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c> Any ideas?
What about good-stuff? ;-)
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GB> By evely removing all suggests to non-free or contrib. :)
Wrong answer. :-)
The ease of installation wouldn't change a bit that way (you could
still dpkg --install as before), what would really change is the
source of non-free existance information, which should be our least
problem.
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:-)
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ree software with or without our contribute,
and even if we stopped building precompiled debs of non-free software,
we couldn't stop others (and companies) from doing it.
So, how could we make non-free software hidden, or harder to install?
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for i in /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list; do j=${i%.list} && \
ln -s $i /usr/doc/${j#/var/lib/dpkg/info/}/MANIFEST; done
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unless you're short of inodes, of course. ;-)
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y same points
you quoted in my message to Manoj, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
in this list.
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s to tetex and tetex-non-free.
It's sad, but every non-free piece of software has its disadvantages
over free alternatives; that's the way it works.
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7;ll be happy nevertheless.
My concern, as a developer, is that Debian commits to non-free
software beyond what is acceptable, by me, and by other people who'd
rather be as free as possible from any non-free software association.
So I'd like to know how big this commitment really is, an
to go in its involvement with non-free software.
As ever, it's not very exciting to realize that what you actually do
doesn't match what you expected to, so better know it before engaging
yourself.
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if gimp-non-free was really non-free software, I
think we should not suggest it in any way from main, even if that was
the only available way to use TIFF or GIF. This isn't the case,
however.
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<ht
reference
non-free packages in the Debian sense (i.e., suggests, recommends, and
depends).
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I know I'm not the
only one thinking this way among debianers.
Since I don't remember if we have already settled this problem down,
my apologies to anybody wasting his/her time reading this message in
such an unfortunate case.
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rld do.
Would you like me to download the missing bar package for you (you may
be forced to move to another country if you don't)? (Y/N). Or
something like that, you get the picture. :-).
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t; Posted: 06 May 1999
JH> Proposer: Marco d'Itri
JH> Seconders: Gordon Matzigkeit, Joseph Carter, Chris Waters
JH> Status: discussion
JH> Description:
JH> Proposal to allow software that depends on software in non-us into main
JH> (currently restricted to contrib).
I second t
nd drop a note both to the maintainer and
the security team, leaving up to those people to decide if and when
that patch should be uploaded as a Debian package.
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ones will have their appropriately
restricted Debian). Moreover, it has the conceptual advantage of
making evident that Debian includes all of the free packages,
regardless of their specific restrictions.
Ben, please, consider the points above and merge them with your
proposal if you feel like i
* Md => Marco d'Itri
Md> What about 960501? It's shorter. (This format has NO Y2K
Md> problems.)
I'd bet 000501 is earlier to dpkg than 990501. ;-)
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installation has finished.
Yes, I was thinking about ordering or handling mail as installation
ends.
MS> Add this as todo if the hooks mechanism is implemented.
Ok.
Cheers,
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Have a look at Debian GNU/Linux: <http://www.debian.org/>.
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* JH => Joey Hess
JH> Davide G. M. Salvetti wrote:
>> I have two outstanding Lintian bugs, against auctex and mailcrypt
>> because I call update-menus in prerm instead of in postrm.
[...]
JH> I think it's worth a few more inodes used to put these calls in
JH> th
quired on every machine the
MS> package installs on ...
Make is `Installed-Size: 305', it's standard and depends just on
libc.
I think it's not a big requirement to have it installed on a machine
that certainly has at least one of the emacsen on its disks.
Thanks,
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* MS => Manoj Srivastava
Firstly I'd like to sincerely apologize if I did anything that may
have offended you in any way.
Believe me, it was far from what I desired, and I'm really sorry. :-(
MS> Hi,
>>> "DGMS" == Davide G M Salvetti <[EMAIL PROTECTE
or should we try and not to use make at all in those scripts?
Waiting for comments,
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Debian is the free operating system with open development model.
* RB => Rob Browning
RB> "Davide G. M. Salvetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Why couldn't be emacsen-common the package taking care of
>> debian-emacs-flavor? Could that symbol be set in debian-startup?
RB> I probably could be, but IMO, that&
MS> Sorry, not yet.
Why couldn't be emacsen-common the package taking care of
debian-emacs-flavor? Could that symbol be set in debian-startup?
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Have a look at Debian GNU/Linux: <http://www.debian.org/>.
Debian is the free operating s
m that can do this as well.
Maybe we should either state clearly in the policy that update-menus
has to be mandatorily called from postrm (i.e., it's behavior may
change in the future and stop working if called from prerm), or allow
calling it from prerm in lintian.
Thanks,
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/,
one block each being the typical figure (as they list only directories
installed by each package).
Davide G. M. Salvetti - IW5DZC [JN53fr]
Have a look at Debian GNU/Linux: <http://www.debian.org/>.
Debian is the free operating system with open development model.
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in my rules files, which I think does something similar to what dh_du does.
Cheers,
Davide G. M. Salvetti - IW5DZC [JN53fr]
Have a look at Debian GNU/Linux: <http://www.debian.org/>.
Debian is the free operating system with open development model.
>>>>> "RB" == Rob Browning.
RB> "Davide G. M. Salvetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> BTW, I don't remember if we have ever discussed about it, but I also
>> think add-on packages should byte-compile in background [1], since it
don't think we're doing anything now that
RB> precludes doing this stuff later, but if you have a good proposal, I'd
RB> be happy to hear it.
Ok, let's do this in two step and wait your proposal is inserted in the
policy first.
Davide G. M. Salvetti - IW5DZC [JN53fr]
Take a look at Debian GNU/Linux: <http://www.debian.org/>.
Debian is the free operating system with open development model.
playing with
RB> that, but it'll require that you purge emacs 19 and all the packages
RB> that depend on it. Let me know if you're interested.
No thanks, I don't have very much free time now, better wait for the new
emacs19, before I start playing with it (I have no spare machines handy
and I have to use Emacs every day).
Cheers,
Davide G. M. Salvetti - IW5DZC [JN53fr]
Take a look at Debian GNU/Linux: <http://www.debian.org/>.
Debian is the free operating system with open development model.
- (require ...) instead.
(Since this means users will have to put a require form in their .emacs,
those package should tell'em about it in README.Debian. System
Administrators willing to load by default this sort of package could put a
require form in /etc/emacs/site-start.el.)
RB&g
rs and see what they think...
RB> If they agree, I'll update my proposal.
It isn't against FSSTND and I think we'll have to do it anyway, when we'll
switch from FSSTND to FHS.
Thanks,
Davide G. M. Salvetti - IW5DZC [JN53fr]
Take a look at Debian GNU/Linux: <http://www.debian.org/>.
Debian is the free operating system with open development model.
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