I kind of got lost in this discussion. Is there a summary and debian
policy and debian reference patch so that those of us who are just
looking to do what we're supposed to do know what we are supposed to do
and how to do it?
Thanks,
Daniel
--
And that's my crabbing done for the day. Got it ou
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On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 01:08:40PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Josselin Mouette wrot
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Hello Josselin,
Am 2008-07-06 14:28:15, schrieb Josselin Mouette:
> the restri
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Le lundi 07 juillet 2008 à 02:48 -0400, Daniel Dickinson a écrit :
&
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On 2008-07-06, Mikhail Gusarov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> fd.o menus are
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On Sun, Jul 06, 2008, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> On 2008-07-06, Mikhail Gusarov <[EMAIL PR
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Le dimanche 06 juillet 2008 à 21:01 +0200, Loïc Minier a écrit :
> There are "only" 47 desktop files with Only
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On 2008-07-06, Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > of Debian KDE/Gn
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Le Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 12:35:34PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit :
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>
> I think that writing a policy is the firs
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Le Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:12:23AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
> XDG has less features tha
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On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Second: XDG has less features than debi
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Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think that Russ is very pessimistic on the quality of the XDG
> des
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> On Fri, July 25, 2008 23:10, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > Daniel Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> Packages like msttcorefonts cannot be installed without downl
Package: debian-policy
Subject: Packages which require to download non-free content should be
in contrib
Packages like msttcorefonts cannot be installed without downloading
content that would be in non-free, or cannot be included in debian at
all, if packaged and should therefore be in con
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Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mikhail Gusarov wrote:
> > fd.o menus are designed to allow distro-specific policy. It's the
> > matter of Debian KDE/Gnome packaging/menu policy to get the proper
> > subset of the packages in menu (e.g. moving Gnome/gtk app
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Twas brillig at 13:08:40 06.07.2008 UTC-04 when [EMAIL PROTECTED] did
gyre an
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Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Therefore, I still feel that, despite it being a big mess, th
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Subject: Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu
Le samedi 05 juillet
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:13:30 +0700
Mikhail Gusarov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Twas brillig at 13:08:40 06.07.2008 UTC-04 when [EMAIL PROTECTED] did
> gyre and gimble:
>
> JH> So, after sufficient time, the gnome menu will contain a random
> JH> assortment of the menu items that also appear in
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:28:15 +0200, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Therefore, I still feel that
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:35:34 -0700
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Such a document could be developed in a way similar to how the
> proposed new copyright document is being developed, and then someone
> could implement Lintian checks based on it and the existing .desktop
> file checks an
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Subject: Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu
* Daniel Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080705 09:05]
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:54:30 +0200
Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul Wise wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 4:15 PM, William Pitcock
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Honestly, policy really needs to be updated to use the XDG
> >> standards menu spec, and every WM at this po
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:46:58 -0700
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The XDG menu specification isn't anywhere near formalized enough or
> sufficiently well-followed in Debian to be meaningfully standardized
> in Debian Policy. If people want to see it become Policy, they need
> to fix
For discussion:
Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are the the top three desktops used in debian and
cover most users of desktops in debian.
They all use xdg .desktop-based menus as their main menu.
xdg .desktop-based menus are not covered by policy.
This means some maintainers refuse to use them (see bug #4
Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are the the top three desktops used in debian and
cover most users of desktops in debian.
They all use xdg .desktop-based menus as their main menu.
xdg .desktop-based menus are not covered by policy.
This means some maintainers refuse to use them (see bug #478954 and
#478916
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:44:09 -0400
Daniel Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Apparently menu-xdg is supposed to do this but does not, or else I am
> misunderstanding what it is supposed to do. I've filed a bug. Maybe
This is a misunderstanding on my part menu-xdg cre
On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:12:27 -0500
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:55:45 -0400, Daniel Dickinson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > For freedesktop.org compliant window managers .desktop files under
> > /usr/share/appli
Package: debian-policy
Severity: normal
For freedesktop.org compliant window managers .desktop files under
/usr/share/applications are considered the preferred method of creating menu
entries, and these entries are what are used for the main menu in these
desktops. The problem is that this is
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