Bug#654958: debian-policy: Document VCS fields.

2012-07-16 Thread Ben Pfaff
Russ Allbery writes: > Jonathan Nieder writes: > >> How about this? > >> diff --git i/policy.sgml w/policy.sgml >> index 7d514921..58bde0bb 100644 >> --- i/policy.sgml >> +++ w/policy.sgml >> @@ -3766,8 +3766,9 @@ Checksums-Sha256: >> >>The field name identifies the

Bug#560411: debian-policy: Document debconf's SETTITLE command in the debconf-spec

2010-06-14 Thread Ben Pfaff
Frans Pop writes: > Inclusion of this command should not pose any problems as it has been > supported since 1993 (debconf version 1.3.22). I think you mean 2003. Otherwise looks fine to me. Seconded. -- Ben Pfaff http://benpfaff.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-polic

Re: Bug#534408: debian-policy: Installed-Size is defined as "kilobytes" but dpkg-gencontrol fills it in with kibibytes

2009-06-23 Thread Ben Pfaff
er/ >> >> to disambiguate the calculation. > > Does du guarantee to do one of those? The specification at http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/du.html says: By default, file sizes shall be written in 512-byte units, rounded up to the next 512-byte un

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

2009-03-21 Thread Ben Pfaff
rement being applied uniformly? I don't see any such attempt in linux-image-2.6.28-1-686, to pick one example at random, even though the Linux kernel comes with a very long list of subsystem maintainers who are presumably authors or copyright holders. -- Ben Pfaff http://benpfaff.org -- To UNSU

Re: Bug#489460: remove alternative changelog formats from main Policy manual

2008-07-05 Thread Ben Pfaff
der the GNU GPL, just as the rest > - of dpkg is.) > - > - > - > > + > > Copyright: debian/copyright > Seconded. (The support for alternative changelog formats always seemed bizarre to me, and I never saw the motivation for it.) -- Ben Pfaff http://benpfaff.org pgpdWgX0PBgaV.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#291460: Inclusion of Apache Software License versions in /usr/share/common-licenses

2008-03-05 Thread Ben Pfaff
my opinion, and it's a perfectly good free software license, so I am in favor of adding the Apache 2.0 license to the list of common-licenses. -- Ben Pfaff http://benpfaff.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#397939: Lintian: outdated-autotools-helper-file

2008-02-17 Thread Ben Pfaff
efinitely > have seen issues. And the Autoconf 2.13 to 2.50 transition and all the > subsequent instability was not that long ago. Autoconf 2.50 was released in May 2001. That's almost 7 years ago now. By free software release standards, I would not consider that "not that long ago&quo

Re: Bug#452105: debian-policy: Homepage field in debian/control undocumented

2007-12-31 Thread Ben Pfaff
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > + > + The URL of the web site for this package, preferrably (when Nit: preferrably -> preferably -- "Writing is easy. All you do is sit in front of a typewriter and open a vein." --Walter Smith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTE

Re: priorities

2007-12-06 Thread Ben Pfaff
Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 05:09:36PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:34:10 -0800, Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > I use "time" in benchmarking scripts. >> I do not

Re: priorities

2007-12-06 Thread Ben Pfaff
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:34:10 -0800, Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> I use "time" in benchmarking scripts. > > I do not find the built in time to be a substitute for the good > old f

Re: priorities

2007-12-06 Thread Ben Pfaff
time is only used in interactive shells, so this might not be > that important. IMHO it could be relegated to optional. I use "time" in benchmarking scripts. -- Ben Pfaff http://benpfaff.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#392362: [PROPOSAL] Add should not embed code from other packages

2007-08-22 Thread Ben Pfaff
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I find the wording "convenience copy of library from other software >> packages" much more telling than "convenience copy of code from other >> software packages" that could be misinterpreted. For example, a

Re: Should debian policy require to use debconf for postinst scripts?

2001-12-07 Thread Ben Pfaff
Massimo Dal Zotto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wrote an automatic installer (which worked) for slink, but I had to > spend weeks to adapt the postinst scripts of debian packages to it, > and I didn't want to repeat all the work for potato and woody. This was my experience, too. > In my opinio

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate funct

1999-09-27 Thread Ben Pfaff
Franklin Belew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > PS: I know my lines are longer than 76 characters, fix your own pager/viewers > wordwrap No, fix your attitude and read RFC1855. Excerpt: - Limit line length to fewer than 65 characters and end a line with a carriage return.

Re: Software in main that is throughly useless without non-free software

1999-05-05 Thread Ben Pfaff
One wrong assumption I keep seeing in this thread is that if you can read a format, then you can write it. That's simply not true. You may not have enough information. For instance, suppose that a file format contains a checksum, with the calculation of the checksum undocumented. In that case,

Re: [scoop@freshmeat.net: gnumaniak 1.0]

1998-11-18 Thread Ben Pfaff
Ben Gertzfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>>> "Ben" == Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tom> This sounds very useful! Are we going to package it somehow? Ben> The problem is that one of the license requirements (3c (?))

Re: Call for Seconds, Take II

1998-09-23 Thread Ben Pfaff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) writes: > "Manoj" == Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Manoj> Hi >>> "Karl" == Karl M Hegbloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Karl> Also, "ChangeLog" files are named with capital `C' and `L' Karl> when you use `C-x 4

Re: Comments on policy modifications

1998-09-14 Thread Ben Pfaff
Guy Maor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Zed Pobre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As a sidenote, if anyone has an idea for templates for proposals, or > a format that would make proposals more readable or in some other > manner more aesthetic or easier to deal with than what I posted,

Re: Namespace pollution

1998-03-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
I think that this proposed policy is too strict. It forbids several commands already in widespread use on the system, and it forbids program names from being a single (English?) word, which is unreasonable, in my opinion. Some command names that this policy forbids: (Section 1) GnomeScott Mail M

Re: Bug#18624: samba: always questions user

1998-02-26 Thread Ben Pfaff
[I'm CC'ing this to debian-policy because I think it's an important general issue.] What I think it would be best is to tell the user that Samba was previously installed and ask if he/she wants to keep the current configuration (regarding running mode). What do you think? I think sever

Re: /etc/init.d/README and policy manual

1998-02-10 Thread Ben Pfaff
[...example text for /etc/init.d/README...] The Debian Policy Manual is ofcourse also available as a debian package. I suggest being more specific here. Something like: The Debian Policy Manual is also available in the Debian package `debian-policy'. When this package is installed, t

Re: Christian Schwarz

1998-02-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
> Furthermore, commas are no good because they're already a separator > for separate addresses in a single field. (Admittedly we already > allow a syntax like John F. Bloggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> which is not > permitted by RFC822.) Why? 'John F. Bloggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>' s

Re: about unique maintainer address policy

1998-01-28 Thread Ben Pfaff
- change the current DB schema to be able to store different "Maintainer:" email addresses for each person This is the best solution IMHO. It is more flexible and doesn't force adoption of a single e-mail address. Although I myself only use a single address, I respect the reasons of p

Re: /bin/sh as an alternative

1998-01-16 Thread Ben Pfaff
If bash is invoked with the name sh, it tries to mimic the startup behavior of historical versions of sh as closely as possible, while conforming to the POSIX standard as well. So, if POSIX says that the example above should be $ echo hello {the

Re: Policy about packages that have Tk dependent parts.

1997-11-30 Thread Ben Pfaff
ytes. Why is it a bad thing in itself to have more packages, even if we have a lot of them? -- Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Policy about packages that have Tk dependent parts.

1997-11-30 Thread Ben Pfaff
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1) Create two packages: foo and foo-tk I can't see any real downsides to this. If `foo' suggests `foo-tk' (and `foo-tk' depends on `foo'), then we've got the best of both worlds. -- Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: additional virtual packages for kde

1997-11-26 Thread Ben Pfaff
that we do it. Won't our turning off --force-overwrite in 2.0 be a more realistic solution of this problem? Aren't most package conflicts really related to their usage of competing file structures? Or am I totally off-base here? -- Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: checker cannot be built from source (bug 14066 et al)

1997-10-22 Thread Ben Pfaff
(from 2.7.2.3) stay on master, at least until a newer Checker is released? -- Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Senders of unsolicited commercial e-mail will receive free 32MB core files!

Re: Packages that require enormous amounts of source

1997-10-22 Thread Ben Pfaff
appy not to be proved wrong on that score. Hmmm... Looking through the policy manual, I can't see such a requirement either. But what is the proper way to specify in the source package that additional sources are needed? And where should they go? -- Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Packages that require enormous amounts of source

1997-10-22 Thread Ben Pfaff
Guy Maor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > In my opinion, this is an unreasonable amount of source code to > > include in a source package, since all the source code is available > > elsewhere. However, Debian policy

Packages that require enormous amounts of source

1997-10-21 Thread Ben Pfaff
think that Debian policy should be modified, in some way, to allow a situation like this to exist and to specify some standard place that the tarballs can be provided. For instance, Checker expects the tarballs in a directory called ../tarballs. Comments? -- Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> &

Re: When to get the upstream maintainer involved.

1997-10-20 Thread Ben Pfaff
in the packaging before passing it on to upstream authors. -- Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Senders of unsolicited commercial e-mail will receive free 32MB core files!

Re: chrooting daemons

1997-10-16 Thread Ben Pfaff
library. I notice that on my system the > libraries and binaries in the anonymous FTP chroot directory are > older than the rest of the system. You could use proftpd, which doesn't require these utilities in the anonftp directory. -- Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: font policy

1997-10-08 Thread Ben Pfaff
only if I write a tool to edit the lines, > don't try to edit them directly...) Just FYI, in case you didn't know: GNU emacs 20.x includes a (optional) set of international fonts for X11. *Lots* of them. In *many* languages. You might want to consider this. -- Ben Pfaff <[E