Bug#1088443: debian-policy: Recommend Debian package version format when upstream has no releases

2024-12-01 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 09:44:17PM -0800, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > My intent here was to suggest specifically that the version of form > > 0.0~git20130606.b00ec39-1 would be elevated as the Policy recommended > > form, as it makes sense and is already most popular. > > For the record, I assume

Bug#1088443: debian-policy: Recommend Debian package version format when upstream has no releases

2024-12-01 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 09:44:17PM -0800, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > My intent here was to suggest specifically that the version of form > 0.0~git20130606.b00ec39-1 would be elevated as the Policy recommended > form, as it makes sense and is already most popular. For the record, I assume it's most p

Re: Bug#1088443: debian-policy: Recommend Debian package version format when upstream has no releases

2024-12-01 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 09:44:17PM -0800, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > My intent here was to suggest specifically that the version of form > 0.0~git20130606.b00ec39-1 would be elevated as the Policy recommended > form, as it makes sense and is already most popular. For the record, I assume it's most p

Bug#1088443: debian-policy: Recommend Debian package version format when upstream has no releases

2024-12-01 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi, > This would not constitute any sort of rejection for which maintainers of > packages would need to be concerned. It does not mean anyone's > practices should change. > > It does not mean that there is no policy (lowercase 'p') for these > version strings in Debian. What I am trying to expre

Bug#1088443: debian-policy: Recommend Debian package version format when upstream has no releases

2024-12-01 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Sun 01 Dec 2024 at 06:53pm -08, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Please no. Rather close it and state that you do not accept this in > the policy so that there is an audit trail that this was rejected from > policy and who made the decision. > > Updates/changes elsewhere can then refer this bug

Bug#1088443: debian-policy: Recommend Debian package version format when upstream has no releases

2024-12-01 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 01:11:14PM -0800, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > >> Package: debian-policy > >> Found: 4.7.0.1 > >> > >> I would like to suggest the Debian Policy to recommend a specific > >> Debian package version string scheme in cases where upstream has no > >> releases, but they do have g

Bug#1088443: debian-policy: Recommend Debian package version format when upstream has no releases

2024-12-01 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Sun 01 Dec 2024 at 04:18pm +01, Tobias Frost wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 01:11:14PM -0800, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: >> Package: debian-policy >> Found: 4.7.0.1 >> >> I would like to suggest the Debian Policy to recommend a specific >> Debian package version string scheme in cases whe

Bug#1088443: debian-policy: Recommend Debian package version format when upstream has no releases

2024-12-01 Thread Tobias Frost
On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 01:11:14PM -0800, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Found: 4.7.0.1 > > I would like to suggest the Debian Policy to recommend a specific > Debian package version string scheme in cases where upstream has no > releases, but they do have git commit ids to refe

Bug#1088443: debian-policy: Recommend Debian package version format when upstream has no releases

2024-12-01 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 at 13:11:14 -0800, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > In case your upstream does not use version numbers, the Debian package > version will look like this: 0.0~git20130606.b00ec39-1 Is there a reason to use 0.0 here in preference to just 0? (For example see src:darkplaces, src:openjk) >

Bug#1088443: debian-policy: Recommend Debian package version format when upstream has no releases

2024-12-01 Thread Simon Josefsson
"Diederik de Haas" writes: > On Sun Dec 1, 2024 at 1:09 PM CET, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> "Diederik de Haas" writes: >> >> >> In case you make more than one snapshot per day, you can append a >> >> snapshot number after the date, e.g. 0.0~git20130606.2.b00ec39-1. >> >> This should rarely be nece

Bug#1088443: debian-policy: Recommend Debian package version format when upstream has no releases

2024-12-01 Thread Diederik de Haas
On Sun Dec 1, 2024 at 1:09 PM CET, Simon Josefsson wrote: > "Diederik de Haas" writes: > > >> In case you make more than one snapshot per day, you can append a > >> snapshot number after the date, e.g. 0.0~git20130606.2.b00ec39-1. > >> This should rarely be necessary. > > > > If a rule is proposed

Bug#1088443: debian-policy: Recommend Debian package version format when upstream has no releases

2024-12-01 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 10:44:40AM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Otto Kekäläinen writes: > > >> The commit hash. 007c9af. > > > > OK, thanks. > > > > I disagree here - to me the git commit hash is the single most > > important identifier for the software version if there are no actual > > relea

Bug#1088443: debian-policy: Recommend Debian package version format when upstream has no releases

2024-12-01 Thread Matthias Geiger
On Sun, 01 Dec 2024 12:58:41 +0100 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Thu Nov 28, 2024 at 10:44 AM CET, Simon Josefsson wrote: > > In case you make more than one snapshot per day, you can append a > > snapshot number after the date, e.g. 0.0~git20130606.2.b00ec39-1. > > This should rarely be necessary.

Bug#1088443: debian-policy: Recommend Debian package version format when upstream has no releases

2024-12-01 Thread Simon Josefsson
"Diederik de Haas" writes: >> In case you make more than one snapshot per day, you can append a >> snapshot number after the date, e.g. 0.0~git20130606.2.b00ec39-1. >> This should rarely be necessary. > > If a rule is proposed to Policy, then it needs to account for such a > situation and should

Bug#1088443: debian-policy: Recommend Debian package version format when upstream has no releases

2024-12-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Thu Nov 28, 2024 at 10:44 AM CET, Simon Josefsson wrote: > In case you make more than one snapshot per day, you can append a > snapshot number after the date, e.g. 0.0~git20130606.2.b00ec39-1. > This should rarely be necessary. I have tried this approach, and ended in situations where the git h