Your message dated Tue, 20 Sep 2022 21:59:22 -0700
with message-id <87a66tfhlh@hope.eyrie.org>
and subject line Re: Bug#911165: debian-policy: drop requirement to ship
sysvinit init script with same name
has caused the Debian Bug report #911165,
regarding debian-policy: drop requirement to shi
Russ Allbery writes:
> I considered whether instead of starting with a priority of 40, we
> should instead bump the priority if the window manager supports the
> desktop specification, but I think this is a place where the structure
> of X environments has changed over the years. It used to be t
Guillem Jover writes:
> On Mon, 2020-06-22 at 18:51:21 -0700, Felix Lechner wrote:
>> Starting with an upcoming release, Lintian will check for the presence
>> of required and recommended fields in various packaging control files.
>> Our methods are probably not perfect, but it was brought to my
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Your message dated Tue, 20 Sep 2022 21:05:38 -0700
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and subject line Re: Bug#967857: debian-policy: [Files/Permissions and owners]
files installed by package manager should not be writable
has caused the Debian Bug report #967857,
regarding debian-pol
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Your message dated Tue, 20 Sep 2022 20:15:16 -0700
with message-id <87sfklfmez@hope.eyrie.org>
and subject line Re: Bug#883233: First footnote to section 7.1 should say which
of Debian's autobuilders ignore alternative dependencies
has caused the Debian Bug report #883233,
regarding First foot
Helmut Grohne writes:
> Jakub stumbled into the "No hard links in source packages" requirement
> added around 1996 and couldn't make sense of it. Neither could Christoph
> nor myself. tar does support hard links just fine. lintian does not
> check this property. sugar-log-activity/38 is an exampl
Felix Lechner writes:
> The installable stanzas in d/control (called "binary package paragraphs"
> in policy) inherit the Section field from the source paragraph. There is
> no reason to provide inheritance the other way around.
Huh, this pointed out to me that I don't know what the current beha
Wouter Verhelst writes:
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:05:42AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Wouter Verhelst writes:
>>> -policy: this is a question that has come up before
>>> (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/12/msg00470.html is
>>> another example that springs to mind, but I'm pretty
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Guillem Jover writes:
> Starting with dpkg 1.18.5, several maintainer script actions involving a
> new package version, get that version as an argument after the old
> version, because they could not get it in any other easy way. The new
> version was only available in the new package somewhere i
Cyril Brulebois writes:
> Russ Allbery (2022-09-19):
>> but I suspect that, to the extent that this is a Policy issue, the problem
>> was that a source package is not itself a udeb and therefore it wasn't clear
>> whether Policy applies to source packages that only produce udebs. My gut
>> feel
Sean Whitton writes:
> I think this is a nice idea, and could help a lot with our bugs. I
> think that we should do it in the lightest-weight way that we can. That
> is, let's
> 1) have the list
> 2) write down in the README that we'll CC people at the point that
>things have got sufficie
Charles Plessy writes:
> I disagree with this point of view. In my own case I had to take a
> dictionary to learn what a stanza is, while the word paragraph is surely
> know at least to anybody who studied English in a classroom.
> In my own field, (molecular biology) we (or at least some of us
Hi all,
while I do not want to pull the handbrake I would like to add my
minority opinion to that change:
Le Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 04:11:43PM +, Russ Allbery (@rra) a écrit :
>
> The «stanza» name is a commonly used and understood term when referring
> to deb822 blocks. Although «paragraph» i
Hello,
On Tue 20 Sep 2022 at 09:39AM -07, Russ Allbery wrote:
> What do people think? Helpful innovation, or just extra bookkeeping that
> isn't worth the effort? If people do think this is a good idea, I'll
> bring it up on debian-devel for further discussion (and then, if we
> adopted it, it
Hello,
On Mon 19 Sep 2022 at 09:29PM -07, Russ Allbery wrote:
> So, in addition to saying that Standards-Version is generally not used for
> udebs or for source packages that only build udebs (I would use wording
> like that rather than "required" since Policy puts no requirements on
> udebs at a
I had an idea this morning while working through the Policy backlog and
wanted to see if others think it's worth pursuing.
One of the challenges of some Policy changes is that there can be subtle
nuances that aren't obvious. We currently rely on the seconding process
to ensure that at least a few
Guillem Jover writes:
> Ok, I've prepared the attached incremental patch, which only switches
> from paragraph(s) to stanza(s) all over the place.
Thanks, applied.
> I've updated all the specs for consistency. I've updated the footnote to
> swap the preference and to mention paragraph is now di
Holger Levsen writes:
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 09:29:36PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> I'm fine with this change, but as Sam points out, the deeper point here
>> is that Policy doesn't apply to udebs. This is the whole point of
>> udebs.
> When you say it like this, it sounds to strong to me,
Russ Allbery (2022-09-19):
> I'm fine with this change, but as Sam points out, the deeper point here is
> that Policy doesn't apply to udebs. This is the whole point of udebs.
>
> I didn't go back and read the history of this bug
Neither did I (I think I was asking for something quite easy and
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 09:29:36PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> I'm fine with this change, but as Sam points out, the deeper point here is
> that Policy doesn't apply to udebs. This is the whole point of udebs.
When you say it like this, it sounds to strong to me, if it were written in
-policy.
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