Bug#907313: Lack of guidelines on purging conffiles in stateless packages

2018-08-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Gioele Barabucci writes: > For instance, apache (the application) is configured by some stub conf > in `/etc/apache` that loads *.conf files from directories such as > `/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/`. The real files are usually in > `/etc/apache2/sites-available/`. > The purge process for the apac

Bug#907313: Lack of guidelines on purging conffiles in stateless packages

2018-08-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Julien Cristau writes: > Second, policy 10.7.3 seems pretty clear to me that purge ought to > remove the package's configuration files, whether they're conffiles or > not. I just looked at this, and I think that's the *intent*, but I don't think we succeed in being quite as clear as we might hav

Bug#907313: Lack of guidelines on purging conffiles in stateless packages

2018-08-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Holger Levsen writes: > I don't think this (nice) new paradigm changes anything and do think > that all types of configuration files should be treated the same. > I'd suggest to close this bug as 'wontfix'. If we do want to recommend removing those files, we shouldn't close this bug as wontfix,

Bug#907313: Lack of guidelines on purging conffiles in stateless packages

2018-08-26 Thread Gioele Barabucci
On 26/08/2018 18:37, Julien Cristau wrote: On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 12:41:48 +0200, Gioele Barabucci wrote: the policy lacks guidelines on how to treat user-provided configuration files during configuration purging in packages for programs that follow the "stateless" paradigm (default in `/usr`,

Bug#907313: Lack of guidelines on purging conffiles in stateless packages

2018-08-26 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 12:41:48 +0200, Gioele Barabucci wrote: > Package: debian-policy > > Hello, > > the policy lacks guidelines on how to treat user-provided configuration > files during configuration purging in packages for programs that follow the > "stateless" paradigm (default in `/usr`,

Bug#907313: Lack of guidelines on purging conffiles in stateless packages

2018-08-26 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Sun 26 Aug 2018 at 12:41PM +0200, Gioele Barabucci wrote: > For example, apticron (the program) has recently switched to a stateless > configuration. The default configuration is shipped in > `/usr/lib/apticron/apticron.conf` and the local configuration is written > by the sysadmin (if

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2018-08-26 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#906910: debian-policy: Link to "Debian Installer internals manual" on Alioth is now broken

2018-08-26 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Wed 22 Aug 2018 at 03:41PM +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: > In policy/policy/ch-scope.rst > >> udebs (stripped-down binary packages used by the Debian Installer) do >> not comply with all of the requirements discussed here. See the `Debian >> Installer internals >> manual

Bug#907313: Lack of guidelines on purging conffiles in stateless packages

2018-08-26 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 12:41:48PM +0200, Gioele Barabucci wrote: > the policy lacks guidelines on how to treat user-provided configuration > files during configuration purging in packages for programs that follow the > "stateless" paradigm (default in `/usr`, override in `/etc`). btw, I think the

Re: Purging conffiles in stateless packages

2018-08-26 Thread Gioele Barabucci
On 26/08/2018 03:52, Russ Allbery wrote: Gioele Barabucci writes: is there a guideline on how to treat user-provided configuration files during configuration purging in packages for programs that follow the "stateless" paradigm (default in `/usr`, override in `/etc`)? The short answer from a

Bug#907313: Lack of guidelines on purging conffiles in stateless packages

2018-08-26 Thread Gioele Barabucci
Package: debian-policy Hello, the policy lacks guidelines on how to treat user-provided configuration files during configuration purging in packages for programs that follow the "stateless" paradigm (default in `/usr`, override in `/etc`). Should they be removed? Should they be kept? For ex