Bug#753608: marked as done (Clarify use of conflicts, clarify what constitutes abuse of the relation)

2014-07-03 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#753608: Clarify use of conflicts, clarify what constitutes abuse of the relation

2014-07-03 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 07:24:51PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 11:52:23AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > > I don't see a systemd-must-die package (conflicting with a core part of > > the Distro) as being productive, helpful or necessary. I definitely > > don't see it as

Bug#753608: Clarify use of conflicts, clarify what constitutes abuse of the relation

2014-07-03 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 11:52:23AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > I don't see a systemd-must-die package (conflicting with a core part of > the Distro) as being productive, helpful or necessary. I definitely > don't see it as there for the right reason. This is not for policy to decide that. >

Bug#753608: Clarify use of conflicts, clarify what constitutes abuse of the relation

2014-07-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Paul Tagliamonte writes: > I'd like to clarify the purpose of the Conflicts relation, as written in > section 7.2 and 7.4. > Recently a package (systemd-must-die) was uploaded to NEW. This package > creates a Conflicts relation with systemd packages, and tries to prevent > their install[1]. > I

Bug#753608: Clarify use of conflicts, clarify what constitutes abuse of the relation

2014-07-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 11:52:23AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 05:27:21PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > There are precedents for such package, namely harden-servers and > > harden-clients > > What alternative to the use of Conflicts would you suggest ? > I didn't k

Bug#753608: Clarify use of conflicts, clarify what constitutes abuse of the relation

2014-07-03 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 05:27:21PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > There are precedents for such package, namely harden-servers and > harden-clients > What alternative to the use of Conflicts would you suggest ? I didn't know about these, interesting packages. Seems fine to me, since you'd never g

Bug#753608: Clarify use of conflicts, clarify what constitutes abuse of the relation

2014-07-03 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 11:01:28AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Severity: important > thanks > > Hey Policy, > > I'd like to clarify the purpose of the Conflicts relation, as written in > section 7.2 and 7.4. > > Recently a package (systemd-must-die) was uploaded to

Bug#753608: Clarify use of conflicts, clarify what constitutes abuse of the relation

2014-07-03 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Package: debian-policy Severity: important thanks Hey Policy, I'd like to clarify the purpose of the Conflicts relation, as written in section 7.2 and 7.4. Recently a package (systemd-must-die) was uploaded to NEW. This package creates a Conflicts relation with systemd packages, and tries to pre

Re: improvements to the Developers Reference maintenance workflows?

2014-07-03 Thread Marc Brockschmidt
Hi, On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > An easy improvement is to switch to Git and collab-maint, and to > announce that direct commits of consensual changes are OK. > After that, we could call for help. > Raphael, Marc, are you fine with that? Yes. Marc -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: improvements to the Developers Reference maintenance workflows?

2014-07-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Thu, 03 Jul 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > An easy improvement is to switch to Git and collab-maint, and to > announce that direct commits of consensual changes are OK. > After that, we could call for help. > Raphael, Marc, are you fine with that? Yes. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian

Re: improvements to the Developers Reference maintenance workflows?

2014-07-03 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
TL;DR: skip to last paragraph Hi, Paul, thanks a lot for summarizing the discussion. On 19/06/14 at 09:05 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Switch to a different documentation format that more people are able to > > write, this probably too much work to be useful though. > > I don't think this