Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012, Russ Allbery wrote: > Wouter Verhelst writes: > > To be a bit more specific on this: such a tool could be implemented > > fairly trivially with a dpkg trigger. Just register a trigger that > > triggers on any file under /usr/share/doc, and have it call gzip --best > > on the f

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Hi, > > During a recent discussion on debian-devel about multiarch, it was shown > that gzip does not always produce the exact same output from a given > input file. > > While it was shown that removing the requirement to compress > document

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Wouter Verhelst writes: > To be a bit more specific on this: such a tool could be implemented > fairly trivially with a dpkg trigger. Just register a trigger that > triggers on any file under /usr/share/doc, and have it call gzip --best > on the files it is called with. It would be a good idea f

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 07:09:40PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:02:50PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > > Debian is used on small systems where users still like to have > > documentation, and > > support zlib compression is almost universal. > > I would not have any o

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.9.2 Severity: wishlist On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 09:17:16PM +0100, Iustin Pop wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 08:22:52AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Hi, > > > > During a recent discussion on debian-devel about multiarch, it was shown > > that gzip does not a

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Iustin Pop
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 08:22:52AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Hi, > > During a recent discussion on debian-devel about multiarch, it was shown > that gzip does not always produce the exact same output from a given > input file. > > While it was shown that removing the requirement to compress

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:02:50PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > > As such, I believe the requirement to compress files is an anachronism > > that we should get rid of. > > I do not like removing a useful requirement in exchange for nothing. > Debian is used on small systems where users still li

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:02:50PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 08:22:52AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Hi, > > > > During a recent discussion on debian-devel about multiarch, it was shown > > that gzip does not always produce the exact same output from a given > > i

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:49:15PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Bill Allombert , 2012-02-20, 18:02: > >iceweasel handle compressed file fine > > Oh, does it? I just tried to open > /usr/share/doc/ccache/changelog.html.gz and it gave me the following > options: > > * Open with /bin/tar (default) >

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Bill Allombert , 2012-02-20, 18:02: iceweasel handle compressed file fine Oh, does it? I just tried to open /usr/share/doc/ccache/changelog.html.gz and it gave me the following options: * Open with /bin/tar (default) * Save file I can't say I'm satisfied with any of them. -- Jakub Wilk

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 08:22:52AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Hi, > > During a recent discussion on debian-devel about multiarch, it was shown > that gzip does not always produce the exact same output from a given > input file. Hello Wouter, > While it was shown that removing the requiremen

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Roger Leigh writes: > I think the same argument can be made for PDF and text files; while it's > true some tools can cope with the compression, the number of times I tab > complete a less command to find it's an unreadable > mess, and have to repeat that with [xx]less or some other tool is very

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Wouter Verhelst writes: > - Compressing documentation files incurs an additional step on the user > who wants to read said documentation. Yes, there is zless and zmore. > However, there is no ziceweasel, zpdf-reader[2] or zgv. Even if such > tools do exist, we would still require that users

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2012-02-20, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi, > > During a recent discussion on debian-devel about multiarch, it was shown > that gzip does not always pro

Re: [proposal] remove the requirement to compress documentation

2012-02-20 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 08:22:52AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: […] > As such, I believe the requirement to compress files is an anachronism > that we should get rid of. > > Thoughts? In general, I agree with the rationale in principle. I think it's possibly important to note that given that th