Re: Replacing ‘may not’ and ‘shall not’ by ‘must not‘ ?

2011-10-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Julian Gilbey writes: > An interesting point. Section 5.3 states that 'Version' is mandatory in > DEBIAN/control; 5.4 that it is mandatory in .dsc, 5.5 that it is > mandatory in .changes. So it follows that every package MUST have a > version number. The way policy is currently written is that

Re: Replacing ‘may not’ and ‘shall not’ by ‘must not‘ ?

2011-10-27 Thread Russ Allbery
"Bernhard R. Link" writes: > [ignoring ad hominem attacks given here, to avoid returning them...] Well, making you feel attacked wasn't the goal, but I stand by what I said in my previous message and don't consider it to be any sort of ad hominem attack. But regardless > If you wanted to r

Re: Replacing ‘may not’ and ‘shall not’ by ‘must not‘ ?

2011-10-27 Thread Julian Gilbey
BOn Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 03:11:14PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: >1;2801;0c * Julian Gilbey [111027 12:09]: > > 3.2: Unchanged, > > So a package without a version is fine? > > > except in final paragraph where "should be converted" > > is changed to "SHOULD be converted". > > So you suggest t

Re: Replacing ‘may not’ and ‘shall not’ by ‘must not‘ ?

2011-10-27 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Julian Gilbey [111027 12:09]: > 3.2: Unchanged, So a package without a version is fine? > except in final paragraph where "should be converted" > is changed to "SHOULD be converted". So you suggest to change policy so that this is no longer a bug if not done? Bernhard R. Link -- T

Re: Replacing ‘may not’ and ‘shall not’ by ‘must not‘ ?

2011-10-27 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:18:53AM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > If you wanted to replace policy with a formal set of requirements and > descriptions like RFCs have them, then this argument could hold. Is not policy mainly trying to do precisely this? If not, then what is its purpose? > But t

Re: Replacing ‘may not’ and ‘shall not’ by ‘must not‘ ?

2011-10-27 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Russ Allbery [111026 19:12]: > "Bernhard R. Link" writes: > > * Russ Allbery [111026 00:43]: > > >> I think it would be lovely to just use RFC 2119 language or a close > >> adaptation thereof. We're sort of reinventing the wheel here, > > > There is also those previous art called "language".