Re: [PATCH v2] upgrading-checklist in present tense?

2011-04-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonathan Nieder writes: > I can understand the temptation. I might be the only one that is > tempted to read the changes as commands directed to the packager Oh! Okay, that, plus a review of the older entries, helped me understand what you're seeing. Some of the entries read like a changelog

[PATCH v2] upgrading-checklist in present tense?

2011-04-05 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Russ Allbery wrote: > Looking back at older entries, the ones I wrote for previous releases are > also in present tense. Could we standardize in that direction instead? I can understand the temptation. I might be the only one that is tempted to read the changes as commands directed to the packa

Bug#621050: Document dependencies needed to use multiarch paths

2011-04-05 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.9.1.0 Severity: wishlist User: debian-pol...@packages.debian.org Usertags: informative Steve Langasek wrote[1]: > Since we don't want to wait until the next release cycle before being able > to proceed to step 5, this does mean that a transitional dependency is >

Re: [PATCH] upgrading-checklist in present tense?

2011-04-05 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Russ Allbery wrote: > Alternately, if we're going to standardize on past tense, we should > probably go ahead and fix everything back to 3.8.0 or so, which seems to > be when I started introducing present tense. (It looks like Manoj was > using past tense.) Here's a rough patch on top to do that

Re: [PATCH] upgrading-checklist in present tense?

2011-04-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonathan Nieder writes: > A tiny nitpick: I found it jarring when the upgrading-checklist switched > from past tense to present tense. I suppose it is because I kept > finding myself switching context when reading it: unlike a changelog, > which paraphrases a patch that will command the code to

[PATCH] upgrading-checklist in present tense?

2011-04-05 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi, A tiny nitpick: I found it jarring when the upgrading-checklist switched from past tense to present tense. I suppose it is because I kept finding myself switching context when reading it: unlike a changelog, which paraphrases a patch that will command the code to change, the upgrading checkli

Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-04-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 05.04.2011 20:13, schrieb Bill Allombert: > I suggest to wait until /run exists in unstable systems, but not until > packages are > using it. This allows developers to notice the change and maybe comment on > the patch. http://packages.qa.debian.org/b/base-files/news/20110405T161708Z.html --

Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-04-05 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 08:34:38PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Version: 3.9.1.0 > Severity: normal > > Hi, > > Please could you add /run as an exception to the FHS? I've attached > a patch with proposed text. > > References: > #620191 - initscripts support for /run >

Bug#616457: debian-policy: always write version of Debian in documentation at the beginning

2011-04-05 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 07:59:10PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > sergey writes: > > I do appreciate the problem that you're trying to solve here, but I don't > think that Policy is the place to do it. > > There are a couple of different types of documentation in play, and the > requirements in te

Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-04-05 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 05:27:48PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > + replacement for /var/run, and its > > + subdirectory /run/lock is a replacement for > > + /var/lock. These changes have been > > + adopted by most distributions

Bug#616465: debian-policy: description file in each system directory

2011-04-05 Thread Russ Allbery
sergey writes: > I do not know Debian internal structure well. Is it possible that Debian > has other place for my suggestion? Some document that give global > recommendations for cases other than system components interoperability? Kind of, in the Developer's Reference. There isn't a lot of th

Bug#616465: debian-policy: description file in each system directory

2011-04-05 Thread sergey
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:17:03 -0700 Russ Allbery wrote: > Hi sergey, > > For the reasons already discussed by others, I don't think that Policy is > the appropriate place to do this. There's definitely some merit to the > idea, but I don't think it rises to the level of making it a Policy > reco

Bug#616457: debian-policy: always write version of Debian in documentation at the beginning

2011-04-05 Thread sergey
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 19:59:10 -0700 Russ Allbery wrote: > I do appreciate the problem that you're trying to solve here, but I don't > think that Policy is the place to do it. If we have such problem in 1 or 2 documents - this is just bugs of this documents. But now we have problem in most of Debi

Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-04-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi! > + replacement for /var/run, and its > + subdirectory /run/lock is a replacement for > + /var/lock. These changes have been > + adopted by most distributions and have been proposed > + for inclusion in a fut

Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-04-05 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 02:55:21PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Hi, > > Roger Leigh (04/04/2011): > > + should not be preserved across reboot. > > “reboots” if you want to stay consistent with the hunk below. > > > + contents are not preserved across reboots. This >

Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-04-05 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Roger Leigh (05/04/2011): > Updated patch attached. To match existing usage in the document, > I've switch both to the singular "reboot" since the contents will > be lost over a single reboot. Hope that's OK? Surely. KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-04-05 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi, Roger Leigh (04/04/2011): > + additionally allowed: /run, > + /sys and /selinux. > + The /run directory is a > + replacement for /var/run, and its > + subdirectory /run/lock is a replacement for > +

Bug#515837: [PROPOSAL] add "Applications/Window Management" to menu sub-policy

2011-04-05 Thread Ignace Mouzannar
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:10, Bill Allombert wrote: > Hello Ignace and Sean, > > Sorry for the long delay. > > Generally we need at least three apps before creating a new menu section. > > The issue here is that most window management softwares are specific to a > single window manager. In that ca

Re: Time for 3.9.2?

2011-04-05 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 09:11:11PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Hello everyone, > > It's been a very long time since 3.9.1, and we've accumulated a pile of > stuff in the Git repository. There are still tons of bugs that need more > review, more proposals we could get closure on, and so forth, bu

Bug#515837: [PROPOSAL] add "Applications/Window Management" to menu sub-policy

2011-04-05 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 08:24:08PM +0200, Ignace Mouzannar wrote: > Hello, > > I am having some trouble finding the proper menu section to place my > application Alltray [1]. Alltray lets you minimize to the system tray > any windowed application. > > I found this bug report, and thought that fbp

Bug#515837: add "Applications/Window Management" to menu sub-policy

2011-04-05 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 11:23:22PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 08:42:08PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515837 > > Hello everybody, > > this comment will perhaps not help the bug to be closed, but I note that

Bug#620674: marked as done (base-files: Please include the text of the Open Font License (OFL) in /usr/share/common-licenses)

2011-04-05 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:19:02 +0200 with message-id <20110405081902.GB6964@yellowpig> and subject line Re: Bug#620674: base-files: Please include the text of the Open Font License (OFL) in /usr/share/common-licenses has caused the Debian Bug report #620674, regarding base-files: Plea

Bug#620870: debian-policy: Please add /run as FHS exception

2011-04-05 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 08:34:38PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > Package: debian-policy > Version: 3.9.1.0 > Severity: normal > > Hi, > > Please could you add /run as an exception to the FHS? I've attached > a patch with proposed text. > > References: > #620191 - initscripts support for /run >

Bug#620566: dpkg: "version number does not start with digit" is in contrast to policy

2011-04-05 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 05:03:47AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > reassign 620566 debian-policy > severity 620566 normal > tags 620566 patch > retitle 620566 Sync upstream version format with what dpkg accepts now > thanks > > On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 21:28:08 +0200, Christian Hofstaedtler wrote: > >